Reed and 2501 hosting tonights 'Jim! I Gotta Tell Ya!' Boxing Show- 10pm EST 03/08/10

[-MAKAVELLI-]

how long did let the show go on?


good vibe BTW...at least when i was on

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

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[THE REED]

how long did let the show go on?


good vibe BTW...at least when i was on

Til 3 am EST... 5 hours!

"Hessssssssssssssssss Safe!!!"

lmfaooooooooooooo you ****

[Dorian]

Seemed a lil bit like a mess, but it was ok. tuned it for a bit.

[Irish Hitman]

haha the name of the podcast "Jim I Gotta tell Ya

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

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Mayorga & Toney Going To MMA: Oh, Boy

• What does this say about MMA?
• In what ways can this affect Boxing positively and negatively?
• Could we start to see a trend of boxers converting to the “dark side” if Toney and Mayorga are successful?

Sorry I couldn't call in. It was long distance. See if I can answer best I can.

What does this say about MMA?

A)Strikeforce's relation with Showtime is on a cartoonish level to the point where they tried to get super eyeballs by making a freakshow match between Toney/Walker just to get press and hype from CBS

B)CBS Sports has a heirachy that is so grey haired and so oldskool that they're willing to bury promotions their own parent company is putting out. Don't believe me? Ask a MMA fan about coverage of the last Strikeforce CBS event. It was non-existant. Getting Toney was a way to buy adspace or even get a hand from CBS Sports.

What no one knows is that Strikeforce has enough manpower to operate on a regional level. They are having major problems on a national level to the point that they thought Showtime would help them with that. But with Showtime handpicking fights, the exciting roster they have while co-promoting with DREAM and M-1 is viciously squandered by freak fights and mediocre matches on the main card due to name value alone.

C) Dana is evil enough to swipe Toney from them to piss on their parade as well as be a total fanboy and express a morbid curiosity in seeing that SEG type matchup happen between the two sports.

In what ways can this affect Boxing positively and negatively?

Positively, I could see it as a way to promote longevity of fighters in ways of health and marketability. Not only is it a great way to protect that bowl of spaghetti called your brain, it's a great way to bring in new eyeballs to your sport. it also provides great opportunities to try new ways of fitness training while seeing what one is worth in other levels of combat.

Negatively, while I'm not that in tune with the Boxing community, the only thing I could see is the fanboys and really ignorant boxing writers destroying the boxer's career simply for getting caught in a peruvian necktie and not being able to get out.

Could we start to see a trend of boxers converting to the “dark side” if Toney and Mayorga are successful?

While I'm not holding my breath with Toney, if someone like Mayorga could at least last a whole match. Literally go through the grind and last a match, I could see a couple of name fighters wanting to try it out just to see how far they could go. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky Hatton would be willing to give it a go. Couture has been corresponding with him.

[2501]

Sorry I couldn't call in. It was long distance. See if I can answer best I can.

What does this say about MMA?

A)Strikeforce's relation with Showtime is on a cartoonish level to the point where they tried to get super eyeballs by making a freakshow match between Toney/Walker just to get press and hype from CBS

B)CBS Sports has a heirachy that is so grey haired and so oldskool that they're willing to bury promotions their own parent company is putting out. Don't believe me? Ask a MMA fan about coverage of the last Strikeforce CBS event. It was non-existant. Getting Toney was a way to buy adspace or even get a hand from CBS Sports.

What no one knows is that Strikeforce has enough manpower to operate on a regional level. They are having major problems on a national level to the point that they thought Showtime would help them with that. But with Showtime handpicking fights, the exciting roster they have while co-promoting with DREAM and M-1 is viciously squandered by freak fights and mediocre matches on the main card due to name value alone.

C) Dana is evil enough to swipe Toney from them to piss on their parade as well as be a total fanboy and express a morbid curiosity in seeing that SEG type matchup happen between the two sports.

In what ways can this affect Boxing positively and negatively?

Positively, I could see it as a way to promote longevity of fighters in ways of health and marketability. Not only is it a great way to protect that bowl of spaghetti called your brain, it's a great way to bring in new eyeballs to your sport. it also provides great opportunities to try new ways of fitness training while seeing what one is worth in other levels of combat.

Negatively, while I'm not that in tune with the Boxing community, the only thing I could see is the fanboys and really ignorant boxing writers destroying the boxer's career simply for getting caught in a peruvian necktie and not being able to get out.

Could we start to see a trend of boxers converting to the “dark side” if Toney and Mayorga are successful?

While I'm not holding my breath with Toney, if someone like Mayorga could at least last a whole match. Literally go through the grind and last a match, I could see a couple of name fighters wanting to try it out just to see how far they could go. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky Hatton would be willing to give it a go. Couture has been corresponding with him.

Great input man.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

Great input man.

Thanks.

I forgot to add that signing Toney and having him fight in the UFC is also going to be Dana's middle finger to sports media for hanging off of Herschel Walker's nuts and even considering the possibility of Walker fighting Jose Caseco. He's hoping that come July when Toney does fight (possibly against Couture), Sports media snags onto that and ride Toney's nuts because the higher ups are, so that when Toney loses, it makes them look like idiots.

That's what Dana White thinks. Not the rest of the community.

boxing vs. MMA is a distant notion in this equation.

[Spacey1991]

We've got a Monday show back on track tonight with 2501 and myself hosting tonights 'Jim! I Gotta Tell Ya!' Boxing Radio Show. Lefty has been inactive due to personal reasons, so we are going to fill the gap so all you die hards out there can get your boxing fix.

Pacquiao Fans please join us, we are saving Pacquiao-Clottey discussion for last!


Show will start at 10PM EST(03/08/10)
(This thread was created at 3:30pm EST, so you out of country people can figure out the time)

Link: http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/77143
Phone Number: (724) 444-7444
Call ID: 77143

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TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED

Alexander vs. Urango: The Rise Of Alexander The Great

• The fight, the result and where does each fighter go from here.
• Zab tries to crash the party, but is he worth the attention?
• Alexander did what Berto couldn't?
• Alexandersays Bradley can get it. Bradley says “let’s do it” as long as the money is there and is even willing to fight in St. Louis. It’s going down down baby?

Vazquez vs. Marquez 4: The Quadrulogy?

• Will the outcome really be different? Will it matter?
• Where does the winner go from here? Should they even continue?

Mayorga & Toney Going To MMA: Oh, Boy

• What does this say about MMA?
• In what ways can this affect Boxing positively and negatively?
• Could we start to see a trend of boxers converting to the “dark side” if Toney and Mayorga are successful?

Castillo vs. Gomez On The Pacquiao/Clottey Undercard

• Who’s looking good in this fight?
• Is Castillo done or does he have some Hopkins in him?
• Does a win over Castillo do anything for Gomez’s career?

Darchinyan Retains title By Defeating Guerrero: The Bull Rages On

• Darchinyan wants to move up to 118, good idea?
• Darchy still wants Donaire, Donaire brushes his shoulder off.

Holyfield vs. Tyson III Rumors: There Is No Truth To This Gossip

• Brian Kenny confirms with King, fight isn’t happening.
• Evander speaks on the rumors
• King wouldn’t comment on whether Tyson was returning

Cloud Withdraws From Johnson Bout, Signs With King: Did He Just Kill His Career?

• Did Cloud ruin his chances at a Dawson fight?
• Can King get him the fights he wants?
• Will Cloud even be relevant after withdrawing from the Johnson fight?
• Where oh where does Johnson go from here?

Dawson vs. Pascal Signed, But Pushed Back Till August 19th

• The Pascal Camp stated June was too early, Jean needed more time to heal from the shoulder injury.
• Should Dawson take a tune up to avoid inactivity?

Kahn vs. Malignaggi, Hatton vs. Marquez: Winners To Face Off?

• Who can we see as the last man standing?
• Is this a challenge for Kahn or a gift basket?

The Event: Pacquiao Vs. Clottey Less Than A Week Away

• The breakdown. How do we see this fight playing out?
• Does Clottey have a chance?
• Is Pacquiao in a no win situation? If he stops Clottey, will that be more fuel to the fire that is the steroid allegations?
• Did Top Rank drop the ball as far as the marketing for this bout went?
• What PPV #’s can we expect?
• Arum thinks no worse than 900k - 1MM

Open Discussion.

JOIN US! 10PM EST 03/08/10

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Phone Number: (724) 444-7444
Call ID: 77143

I can't listen to these things cause it means me having to stop up till 4 in the morning when I have college the next day, **** that I want my sleep!

[Mushroom]

I can't listen to these things cause it means me having to stop up till 4 in the morning when I have college the next day, **** that I want my sleep!

You can usually download them...