Whats up with the so called HBO Boxing Xperts?

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  • Suckmedry
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    #31
    Steward is the only one with really good knowledge about actual boxing, Bert Sugar is a damn storyteller, and the others are idiots.

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    • aristotlemoses
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pacdbest
      The true expert there Bert Sugar & Larry merchant, Max's still a work in progress but getting better, manny steward is overrated, Jim is the best Blow by Blow but He's under control by Whoever's the House Promoter. Lederman just a comedian.

      Pacdbest still better than all of them...the closest one to me is Larry Merchant. We almost agree on many things.
      How is manny steward overrated though? I can understand if you don't like him as announcer or disagree with his views. But dudes been around boxing basically his whole and has trained some great great fighters.

      All these guys know the sport in and out. You can't agree with what everyone says but I would rather sit there and listen to them talk about boxing then half the people on this site who just talk about Mayweathers and Pacs personal life.

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        #33
        But they still all know the sport don't get me wrong, they aren't NSB posters, but when it comes to how a fight is playing out, for me Steward has the best insight, seeing as he works in the gym with real fighters.

        Roy Jones was easily the best I have ever heard. Big George said some bizzare things at times, and used awkward expression if you know what I mean, but occasionally he did say some things that were dead right.

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        • javelin_fangs
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          #34
          Originally posted by warp1432
          They all know boxing. I think the least knowageable is Bob Papa though. He knows the sport, but I think he has the least knowledge.
          Knowledgeable about what happened or about how to actually fight? There's a difference. HBO announcers other than Manny Stewart and maybe Kellerman really don't know much about the nuances of fighting. They all promote the same straight up one-two hands held high style, fists constantly pumping as if there's only one way to fight every fight.

          Other than Manny Stewart, you don't watch HBO and learn much about how boxing works, or about what styles counter other styles well. You don't learn much about how momentum shifts in fights or what punches to throw in what situations. You don't learn much of anything about strategy by listening to HBO announcers. They all say the same thing; either come forward or circle. If you come forward, just throw a lot of punches. If you circle, work off your jab and punch in combination. As if nothing changes based on who your opponent actually is and what is working well for you and him.

          Certain punches work well in certain situations. Depending on who is stronger, you need to know whether you should come forward, circle or move backward. And that is also going to dictate which punches you throw and from what angles. The HBO announcers, for the most part, have no clue about any of this.
          Last edited by javelin_fangs; 03-08-2010, 10:50 PM.

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          • mookiep
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            #35
            Originally posted by javelin_fangs
            Knowledgeable about what happened or about how to actually fight? There's a difference. HBO announcers other than Manny Stewart and maybe Kellerman really don't know much about the nuances of fighting. They all promote the same straight up one-two hands held high style, fists constantly pumping as if there's only one way to fight every fight.

            Other than Manny Stewart, you don't watch HBO and learn much about how boxing works, or about what styles counter other styles well. You don't learn much about how momentum shifts in fights or what punches to throw in what situations. You don't learn much of anything about strategy by listening to HBO announcers. They all say the same thing; either come forward or circle. If you come forward, just throw a lot of punches. If you circle, work off your jab and punch in combination. As if nothing changes based on who your opponent actually is and what is working well for you and him.

            Certain punches work well in certain situations. Depending on who is stronger, you need to know whether you should come forward, circle or move backward. And that is also going to dictate which punches you throw and from what angles. The HBO announcers, for the most part, have no clue about any of this.
            and this is why antonio tarver is miles ahead of everyone. Dude is killing it right now. He goes on long rants telling u everything u need to know.

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