Is HAROLD LEDERMAN the WORST unofficial judge in history???

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  • Calilloyd
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    #11
    Originally posted by Head-Butter
    This dude has some weird ass score cards. Was watching Matweather vs JCC last night and OMFG lederman had that fight even b4 JCC retired.

    There are countless examples where his scorecards and the actual score cards have daylight in between them!!!

    What's his role in the HBO team???
    He can be off sometimes like most judges.I don't really know who can be compared to him though.

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    • BoxerDood
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      #12
      Originally posted by $iCaRiO
      His worst score was when he had Paul Williams beating Quintana
      What the hell?? That was a clear victory for Quintana...Wow that's sad...

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      • PinoyZoi
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        #13
        Hes better than most judges.

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          #14
          I generally don't mind Lederman, but he makes mistakes sure.

          I like how Showtime does press row scoring better so it's like 3 judges albeit from the media, to give it a more well-rounded picture of how the fight is going.


          It's funny though. No one knows what goes on the mind of official judges unless it's open scoring...

          (I hate open scoring btw)

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          • nikeboix69
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            #15
            Originally posted by BoxerDood
            He made some pretty ******ed scores. I can't believe he actually scored round 12 in Marquez I & II in favor of Pacquiao...And he actually had Pac winning more rounds in Marquez I...Like what the hell! I could understand scoring it 113-112 in favor of Pac because one of the rounds was close, but to score it like 114-111 or 115-110? That's insane.

            He also gave Collazo a few rounds in the Berto fight where he literally did nothing.

            But I guess overall he had some good nights and bad nights. I mean he did get Diaz-Malignaggi I correctly.
            The actual judges had it 115-110 for Marquez, 115-110 for Pacquiao, and one guy had it 113-113. I'm not gonna argue with you since you clearly think Marquez won that fight and I think Pacquiao won that fight but what is obvious is that fight was hard to score.

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            • Picazo
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              #16
              yah dude, the mother****er always has some bull**** scores.

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              • SiCaRiO13 Jr
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                #17
                Originally posted by BoxerDood
                What the hell?? That was a clear victory for Quintana...Wow that's sad...
                Yea, that is sad, he had it 115-113

                I dont know why tho

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  I generally don't mind Lederman, but he makes mistakes sure.

                  I like how Showtime does press row scoring better so it's like 3 judges albeit from the media, to give it a more well-rounded picture of how the fight is going.


                  It's funny though. No one knows what goes on the mind of official judges unless it's open scoring...

                  (I hate open scoring btw)
                  how can u hate open scoring. You have to be a ****** to support closed scoring. Boxing is the only sport where u dont know the score and its ******ed as ****. It makes no sense.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mookiep
                    how can u hate open scoring. You have to be a ****** to support closed scoring. Boxing is the only sport where u dont know the score and its ******ed as ****. It makes no sense.

                    Because fighters ahead run away to preserve the victory and the trainer of the losing fighter is most likely to tell the fighter quit than go for a ko.

                    I've seen this countless times.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Because fighters ahead run away to preserve the victory and the trainer of the losing fighter is most likely to tell the fighter quit than go for a ko.

                      I've seen this countless times.
                      who? like once? 999 times out of a thousand the trainer is not gonna tell someone to quit.

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