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  • #21
    My opinion on the outcome of the fight did change after watching this. Before watching I couldn't see Clottey being stopped, but I see now that, on top of this fight stylistically not favouring Clottey AT ALL, his training camp seems to not be up to standard also.

    I have mixed feelings about Clottey in this fight. I'm glad that he's getting this opportunity to fight on the biggest stage, against the P4P #1 fighter in the world. However, the way Bob Arum is using him as a money gaining sacrifice for his and Pacquiao's career, saddens me.

    Clottey will be lucky to see past round 8.

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    • #22
      No, my opinion is the same. Clottey will bust up Manny and win in the process. There is nothing that can change my mind. Clottey is going to make the most of this opportunity. Just like my son always tells me..it's first place or no place and I think Clottey is well aware of this. His opportunities will be far and few if he loses this fight and he knows this but if he wins then the sky will be the limit. I just hope they don't steal it from him on the scorecards.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BoxingHistory View Post
        No, my opinion is the same. Clottey will bust up Manny and win in the process. There is nothing that can change my mind. Clottey is going to make the most of this opportunity. Just like my son always tells me..it's first place or no place and I think Clottey is well aware of this. His opportunities will be far and few if he loses this fight and he knows this but if he wins then the sky will be the limit. I just hope they don't steal it from him on the scorecards.
        You don't think Pacquiao will be equally as motivated? The guy will miss out on the biggest pay day of his career against Mayweather should he lose, he will feel as though he's let down his country, a fact made worse with his political elections coming up, he is expected to win and so will be feeling the pressure.

        On top of that, Pacquiao has the speed, the movement and the power to prove all sorts of problems for a type of fighter in Clottey who Pac will always look good against.

        Tell me, what can Clottey do to bust up Manny, besides headbutting him?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by - JCHING - View Post
          You don't think Pacquiao will be equally as motivated? The guy will miss out on the biggest pay day of his career against Mayweather should he lose, he will feel as though he's let down his country, a fact made worse with his political elections coming up, he is expected to win and so will be feeling the pressure.

          On top of that, Pacquiao has the speed, the movement and the power to prove all sorts of problems for a type of fighter in Clottey who Pac will always look good against.

          Tell me, what can Clottey do to bust up Manny, besides headbutting him?
          Clottey hits hard. He's not a "power" puncher, but he's a hard puncher.
          But, i see clottey winning. Out of bias, though. I've been a huge clottey fan for a very long time now.

          But from a realistic point of view, i honestly feel like he's the right guy to exploit some of manny's flaws. Manny throws very wide punches. You guys call them "angles". The wide angles come from the punches being wide. I see clottey countering often.

          Clotteys biggest problem here isn't mannys speed or his power, but his favorite combinations are usually straight punches down the pop. he flurries 1-2-1-2-1-2 a LOT, and it will always peirce between clotteys gloves. So his shell will actually do him less favors in this fight than usual.

          I feel like people underestimate clotteys footwork though. he didn't just block margis punches, he slipped and made space as well. People **** on his foot movement because they fail to realize he actually has "real" ring generalship. Rule number 1 is never give your opponent the ring, and back up enough to avoid getting hit, but never too far to where he can reset or you can't reach him anymore.

          Clottey follows these rules. he keeps the majority of the ring behind him (controls the ring) and when he backs up to avoid a punch, it sjust far enough to avoid getting hit, but not too far to where he can't return fire. You guys call this being stationary, real fighters/fight fans know the difference.

          Also, people show pac respect because of his power then fail to exploit the small holes in his game. Here's to hoping his power doesn't stun clottey, because if it doesn't, pacman will not have the respect given by his other opponents.

          I visualize clotteys jab testing pacman, but hsi straight right landing often. I think he'll sneak it in very well. His uppercut will be mint on saturday as well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by - JCHING - View Post
            You don't think Pacquiao will be equally as motivated? The guy will miss out on the biggest pay day of his career against Mayweather should he lose, he will feel as though he's let down his country, a fact made worse with his political elections coming up, he is expected to win and so will be feeling the pressure.

            On top of that, Pacquiao has the speed, the movement and the power to prove all sorts of problems for a type of fighter in Clottey who Pac will always look good against.

            Tell me, what can Clottey do to bust up Manny, besides headbutting him?
            its "headbooting" as Clottey says it. hes just a tough ass game guy with more than what he needs to carry this fight or even have an upset.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Lil' bro View Post
              its "headbooting" as Clottey says it. hes just a tough ass game guy with more than what he needs to carry this fight or even have an upset.
              Also. Anyone who knows pacman knows he's not much of an inside fighter at all. His best punches always are at the full extent of his arms length. Clottey though, throws quick sharp punches from the inside. In short, clottey is actually a better inside fighter than pac.. who prefers to bounce in and out.

              This is most likely wise clottey says he wants to crowd manny, and bring the fight to him. He most likely will want to stay as close to manny as possible to neutralize his power (full extension of his arm) and prevent him from moving in and out so much.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
                Also. Anyone who knows pacman knows he's not much of an inside fighter at all. His best punches always are at the full extent of his arms length. Clottey though, throws quick sharp punches from the inside. In short, clottey is actually a better inside fighter than pac.. who prefers to bounce in and out.

                This is most likely wise clottey says he wants to crowd manny, and bring the fight to him. He most likely will want to stay as close to manny as possible to neutralize his power (full extension of his arm) and prevent him from moving in and out so much.
                pac used to love to slug it out in the pocket, but roach coached it out of him. clottey has better defense on the inside.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  pac used to love to slug it out in the pocket, but roach coached it out of him. clottey has better defense on the inside.
                  Negative. Pac use to go inside and wail, wildly, so roach broke him out of it. he was never GREAT at it though nor excelled it at. It was just something he loved to do, the man loves a FIGHT.

                  Clottey though, does his absolute best work inside. Pac doesn't.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Lil' bro View Post
                    its "headbooting" as Clottey says it. hes just a tough ass game guy with more than what he needs to carry this fight or even have an upset.
                    LOL yea headbooting..

                    Hey don't get me wrong, Clottey is a tough, solid fighter. He just doesn't do enough - what he does do he does well - but it's not gonna be enough to cause a fighter like Manny much problems.

                    To me he's a B+ class fighter. He has average punching power, average to slightly above average hand speed, his counter punching is good but not exceptional.

                    I'm still gonna watch the fight, should be a great event, but I'm not expecting anything other than a Pacquiao KO.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
                      Also. Anyone who knows pacman knows he's not much of an inside fighter at all. His best punches always are at the full extent of his arms length. Clottey though, throws quick sharp punches from the inside. In short, clottey is actually a better inside fighter than pac.. who prefers to bounce in and out.

                      This is most likely wise clottey says he wants to crowd manny, and bring the fight to him. He most likely will want to stay as close to manny as possible to neutralize his power (full extension of his arm) and prevent him from moving in and out so much.
                      This was a talking point prior to the Hatton fight.

                      Whilst I definitely agree that Clottey is a much better inside fighter than Pac, Roach will know this and will have adapted a gameplan to avoid those situations.

                      If Clottey tries to smother and crowd Manny, it will play into Pacquiao's gameplan.

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