Pacquiao-Mayweather collapse is about control, not PEDs

[Dehydrator]

Bro he came in overweight vs. Torrecampo and Singsurat. 2 of his losses and a few more times. Hes done it alot. He lost his belt on the scales to Singsurat before he got KO'd.

I don't post a lot here at boxing scene however each time I make my opinions and comments known I made sure I won’t post anything that will ruin my credibility as a poster. I hate people making allegations that are bound to get owned based on lies and fabrications.

Saying that give us a link that says Pacquiao came in overweight during his first two loses.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I don't post a lot here at boxing scene however each time I make my opinions and comments known I made sure I won’t post anything that will ruin my credibility as a poster. I hate people making allegations that are bound to get owned based on lies and fabrications.

Saying that give us a link that says Pacquiao came in overweight during his first two loses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao

"His weight increased from 106 to 113 pounds before losing in his 12th bout against Rustico Torrecampo via a third round knockout. Pacquiao had not made the weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves than Torrecampo, thereby putting him at a disadvantage. Early in the third Pacquiao moved forwards into an overhand left from Torrecampo, flattening him instantly.

Shortly after the Torrecampo fight, Pacquiao settled at 112 pounds, winning the WBC World flyweight title (his first major boxing world title as well as the flyweight lineal title) over Chatchai Sasakul by way of knockout in the eighth round. However, Pacquiao lost the title in his second defense against Medgoen Singsurat, also known as Medgoen 3K Battery, via a third round knockout. The bout was held in Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there. Technically, Pacquiao lost the belt at the scales, as he surpassed the weight limit of 112 pounds."

Let me get some green stuff for the hardwork...lol.

[Pullcounter]

How? Floyd didnt know Pac would act like this. Pac even accepted at first then he back tracked.

How was it to get out the fight when he asked Shane and he agreed the fight was signed.

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well, pac always acts like a diva in negotiations. if you remember, there always is some negotiation trouble with pac. with cotto it was the weight. with hatton it was the money. with oscar it was the weight. with jmm it was the money. etc... floyd might've saw this and said, "hmm... if i don't play by pac's rules then pac might walk away from negotiations." remember, the only reason why pac agreed to fight hatton is because his non-alcoholic friend drank alcohol for pac. pac is a whimsical kinda guy.

as for mosley, mosley was just happy to get a big fight.

[Pullcounter]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao


"His weight increased from 106 to 113 pounds before losing in his 12th bout against Rustico Torrecampo via a third round knockout. Pacquiao had not made the weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves than Torrecampo, thereby putting him at a disadvantage. Early in the third Pacquiao moved forwards into an overhand left from Torrecampo, flattening him instantly.

Shortly after the Torrecampo fight, Pacquiao settled at 112 pounds, winning the WBC World flyweight title (his first major boxing world title as well as the flyweight lineal title) over Chatchai Sasakul by way of knockout in the eighth round. However, Pacquiao lost the title in his second defense against Medgoen Singsurat, also known as Medgoen 3K Battery, via a third round knockout. The bout was held in Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there. Technically, Pacquiao lost the belt at the scales, as he surpassed the weight limit of 112 pounds."

Let me get some green stuff for the hardwork...lol.

what year was this? 1995?

[mazdaru]

if floyd really wants to clean boxing he should file a petition to the different state athletic authorities to implement random blood testing as a standard policy.

you tell me which is going to bring change for sure and faster.

sending a petition to the diff state AA's out of public eye or scrutinizing drug test protocol in the media with as big of a star as he is?

using the media is the best way of exposing the ****ty testing measures in boxing

[S.G.]

well, pac always acts like a diva in negotiations. if you remember, there always is some negotiation trouble with pac. with cotto it was the weight. with hatton it was the money. with oscar it was the weight. with jmm it was the money. etc... floyd might've saw this and said, "hmm... if i don't play by pac's rules then pac might walk away from negotiations." remember, the only reason why pac agreed to fight hatton is because his non-alcoholic friend drank alcohol for pac. pac is a whimsical kinda guy.

Or maybe just Pacquiao once again acted like a diva and threw a hissy fit over a perfectly reasonable negotiation point?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

what year was this? 1995?

In 1995 he was at 106 not light flyweight. How do I know more about Pac then HIS fans.

[brick wall]

"The idea of presenting a diamond belt came about when Cotto, though agreeing to battle Pacquiao at a catch weight of 145 lb, initially refused to stake his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight belt unless the Filipino reconsiders fighting at 147."

how do you guys come up with all these information? were you an insider during the negotioation? so whose idea was the diamond belt? and how does that make cotto agree to stake his welter belt? as far as i know cotto (or any fighter for that matter) has the option to agree or not. once a fighter agrees then there's no problem. if he does not then it should not be taken against him. that should not even be a question to a sane person

[syphillis]

what year was this? 1995?

Pac made weight in all of his fights held in the US AFAIK.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

how do you guys come up with all these information? were you an insider during the negotioation? so whose idea was the diamond belt? and how does that make cotto agree to stake his welter belt? as far as i know cotto (or any fighter for that matter) has the option to agree or not. once a fighter agrees then there's no problem. if he does not then it should not be taken against him. that should not even be a question to a sane person

Bob Arum.

Promotes both fighters. Do the math.