Pacquiao-Mayweather collapse is about control, not PEDs

**PAC-BOY** · 03-06-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Dempsey's Fan

I'm sick of hearing their respective fanbases bash either of these fighters. Its as simple as this, Mayweather left because he thought he was done with the sport of boxing, and during that hiatus Pacquiao ascended to the p4p #1. Not only was the buzz surrounding Pacquiao enormous, but he was a fan favorite, and had an air of intimidation that Floyd has previously been unable to cultivate. Floyd, who feels all criticism of his HOF career is unjustified came back, probably expecting the sport to take him in and once again elevate him as its greatest champion. Instead, he has had to fight for his place in the sport for the first time in years. So when fights negotiations came around for Pacquiao-Mayweather, egos were running high, and both camps had a profound dislike for one another. This testing isnt about PEDs its about who gets to dictate the terms of the fight, and therefore who is in control. Pacquiao hasnt submitted to testing because from his perspective he is a clean fighter who has never had nay reason to be accused of using PEDs and not only that but he is the best p4p fighter in the world who shouldnt have to submit to the demands of any other fighter. Likewise, Mayweather sees himself as the best fighter in the world who should be able to dictate terms to any fighter, for any fight. Its as simple as that. No one is running scared, no one is juicing. Its just two egos which need to somehow be maneuvered in order ot accomadate one another for a big fight. Its as simple as that folks...

great post. Greenk when im loaded back up.

**B.U.R.N.E.R** · 03-06-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Dempsey's Fan

I'm sick of hearing their respective fanbases bash either of these fighters. Its as simple as this, Mayweather left because he thought he was done with the sport of boxing, and during that hiatus Pacquiao ascended to the p4p #1. Not only was the buzz surrounding Pacquiao enormous, but he was a fan favorite, and had an air of intimidation that Floyd has previously been unable to cultivate. Floyd, who feels all criticism of his HOF career is unjustified came back, probably expecting the sport to take him in and once again elevate him as its greatest champion. Instead, he has had to fight for his place in the sport for the first time in years. So when fights negotiations came around for Pacquiao-Mayweather, egos were running high, and both camps had a profound dislike for one another. This testing isnt about PEDs its about who gets to dictate the terms of the fight, and therefore who is in control. Pacquiao hasnt submitted to testing because from his perspective he is a clean fighter who has never had nay reason to be accused of using PEDs and not only that but he is the best p4p fighter in the world who shouldnt have to submit to the demands of any other fighter. Likewise, Mayweather sees himself as the best fighter in the world who should be able to dictate terms to any fighter, for any fight. Its as simple as that. No one is running scared, no one is juicing. Its just two egos which need to somehow be maneuvered in order ot accomadate one another for a big fight. Its as simple as that folks...

In a perfect world yeah. But I disagree.

Mayweather had no idea Pac would act like this over testing. No one did.I remember the thread that showed Pac accepting and everyone applauded him. Then when he pulled out everyone said he didnt have to do anything. Funny.

**el malo** · 03-06-2010, 02:24 PM

nah its cuz pac didnt agree to take the blood test cuz floyd is bigger than him.

**PAC-BOY** · 03-06-2010, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by No Ceilings

In a perfect world yeah. But I disagree.

Mayweather had no idea Pac would act like this over testing. No one did.I remember the thread that showed Pac accepting and everyone applauded him. Then when he pulled out everyone said he didnt have to do anything. Funny.

there is way more to it than that. MAy wanted testing. PAc says ok. May wanted his own Doc..and a number of random testing up until 24 hrs of the fight...Pac said NO

**PAC-BOY** · 03-06-2010, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by elmalo29

nah its cuz pac didnt agree to take the blood test cuz floyd is bigger than him.

**ModernTalking** · 03-06-2010, 02:29 PM

I think May is a little scare because he said he could die in the ring fighting Pacquiao.

**17scenes** · 03-06-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by PAC-BOY

You didnt see him on Kimmel?

Excuse number 10 is that a blood test would hurt him more then Floyd because Floyd is bigger then him.

Oh and where did you get the idea that Floyd choses which doctor does the testing? Sounds like you just made that up yourself...

**Dehydrator** · 03-06-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by No Ceilings

In a perfect world yeah. But I disagree.

Mayweather had no idea Pac would act like this over testing. No one did.I remember the thread that showed Pac accepting and everyone applauded him. Then when he pulled out everyone said he didnt have to do anything. Funny.

If Mayweather really likes to fight Pacquiao why in the hell he asked for a bull**** stipulation based on a hunch? I really don�t understand why demand something that will surely put an irreparable dent in the middle of a negotiations.

What about if both camps drop both of their demands and just fight using the existing rules mandated by the boxing commission?

Would you truly believe Floyd will fight Pacquiao?

**el malo** · 03-06-2010, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by PAC-BOY

Originally posted by 17scenes

You didnt see him on Kimmel?

Excuse number 10 is that a blood test would hurt him more then Floyd because Floyd is bigger then him.

Oh and where did you get the idea that Floyd choses which doctor does the testing? Sounds like you just made that up yourself...

there you go pacboy
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Pacquiao-Mayweather collapse is about control, not PEDs