Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mosley Can't Get Mad at Mayweather

[Boxing Sage]

mayweather is overrated. Never faced a true welter but now hes about to get ko. Plus a fight moestley vs pac is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more interesting than running man mayweather. Like or not: Nitramzaid@hotmail

how can the greatest defensive fighter that ever lived be overrated?
Just get ready to eat back your words when may 1st comes around.

[flint]

all you pbf haters will get your hearts broken again after he makes mosley look his age.so shut up and buy the ppv.actually you'll be paying floyd because shane's antics to get the fight cost him to a 65-35 split.classic mayweather the greatest boxing business man in the histoy of the sport.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Are folks just scared to say that we don't know? This seems to be a great match up and well have to tune in May 1st weather we like it or not.One guys is 40-0 and has had over 20 or so championship fights..there is a blue print to winning rounds but not consistenly beating floyd in every round. Floyd makes great in fight adjustments so u can't just have plan A or plan B. Floyd can go totally offensive or totally defensive so he's a tough fight for anyone.....On the other hand you have a guy who hase a great deal of speed, power, and skill to get the job done. Shane won't back down ane won't let floyd get comfortable..if he's smart...one things for sure is that they should bring the best out of each other, it should come down to who's got more left in thisstage of their career, because their going to need it to win...I'm going with Floyd but I understand that Shane has a chance to win also...

Say bruh. I dont know if Floyd can win this fght with Shane but I think he has what it takes to do so. I aint scared to say that at all.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

how can the greatest defensive fighter that ever lived be overrated?
Just get ready to eat back your words when may 1st comes around.

I can't call Floyd the "GREATEST" defensive fighter ever. I have to reserve that for the man in my avi.............The Galveston Giant.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I can't call Floyd the "GREATEST" defensive fighter ever. I have to reserve that for the man in my avi.............The Galveston Giant.

But Floyd is the best defensive wizard of OUR time IMHHO.

[Rome-By-Ko]

ODH is right. Its the jab, but not any old jab a good strong authoritative up-jab. I just posted this for my potna Rome who asked me this very same question. It's alot of reading but here it go if ya'll wanna read it. Feedback is more than welcome as long as it aint that name calling mess ie. Gayweather, *****, *******, Roidhead. I dont get down with that ****.

The key to beating the Floyd we know now, is a fast strong up-jab, behind a tight guard from the southpaw stance. You also cant be scared to hook off the jab. Floyd has a few different gears he uses in the ring depending on his opponent in regards to the use of his jab(when he uses it)

1. Is the soft jab that he uses for spacing. If you are smart when you see him do this he is more then likely setting up his exit strategy; meaning straight right to the head or body is on it's way. But you kind of have to play the game of probability with it because he does hook off of the soft jab(remember this used to be Floyd's money punch and still is, he just doesn't show it in an attept to make you forget it's there).

2. FOOTWORK!!!!! dealing with Floyd involves knowing(feelin) where your feet are(Not like Allen Green who looks at his feet constantly), but keeping your lead foot on the outside of Floyd's(If your a Southpaw), If you are Ortho the you need to have your feet spaced a lil closer together about Shoulder width so that you take small slides to cut the ring off. Too much space in your stance and Floyd will expose it by throwing a lead(right or left) while he's on his way out, leaving you looking for him off balanced(bad combo right there).

3. You have to trick Floyd (or attempt to). The best trap that I could see to set would be to shorten your punches to give him a false sense of range, and wait for him to get comfortable with that range then drop the hammer on him after keeping him in range with a short jab. It's imparative that you out think Floyd. Pressure like JLC doesn't work anymore. He has fixed those mistakes.

You know how they say the law is always one step behind the criminals? Well it also goes for Floyd. His opponent is always one step behind him.

These are just SOME of the things I can see that you have to be able to do to beat Floyd. You cannot throw your punches wide or from too far out with Floyd. It's all about ring smarts, real estate of the ring(can't let Floyd have too much real estate), and strong fundamentals(strong jab). And you have to change the game plan every couple of rounds because he WILL figure you out.

That's all I can come up with by going off of Floyd's tendencies that I can see in my head, but if I watch tape on Floyd I might beable to pick up some of his habits to see how bad they really are. I doubt there are many, because he is constantly adapting to whats in front of him.

My question for all ya'll is this........How and what do you think Shane needs to do in order to solve the boxing puzzle/riddle that is Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

Wow great post my dude.How you big bro?Ok you talk like you was a trainer?Did you do some training in your day?MMM...I feel moses has a underated jab.People say he does not have a jab but out jab oscar in thier first fight no?He outbox Hoya in thier first fight and say what you will bout hoya but he had a masterful jab in those day's and was a great boxer.The key to mosley winning in this fight is goin to be the plan of brother ****m.

I'm pretty sure the plan will be to box may.Cause like many people on these thread's people are SLEEPING ON MOSLEY BOXING ABILTY.They will soon find out that mosley can box.Oh and punch output will be another key to winning this fight.For the first 3or4 round's i see a boxing match with shane getting the better of it(that's right i said it lol).The middle round's May will make adjustment's meaning shan will lose like the next three rd's.This is were ****m will have to show what his real plan is.If there is no other plan moses will lose.But if there is which i think it will be.I think plan b is goin to be make floyd excahnge moses is going to start to get closer usein his jab to get inside and pound may on the inside.This is were we will see the old may which was a force or may on his back.To me with moses it's all about can May keep a good space between him and moses.My bet is he can't.I see shane taking this fight cause of his not so perfect rec.He has been in tough alot.Alot of elite fighters.While Mayweather was in tough with alot of world class fighter's I just feel moses was in tougher.This will play a part in this fight cause if you think May is just goin to simply outbox shane nah man it's not goin like that.before this night is over it will be GUT check time for Mayweather.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think the best person to tell us the strategy is not posters from here, but rather people who have boxed or sparred Floyd.Then you can give a detailed personal customised way on the blueprint to beat Floyd.

I think everbody should say they opinion as long as it not degrading or flatout ******.

[Rome-By-Ko]

While I understand yor point I offer you this. If you have NOT sparred with Floyd does that make you less knowledgable abut things that you see in the ring? Also does it(If you are a student of Boxing)help to hone, sharpen, and fine tune your boxing sense? If you a Soldier who has never been to WAR do I turn a deaf ear to your experience of the military through your eyes? Awaiting a response from you on these questions that I have posed.

On point Ouch

[slipjab73]

roger also ackowledged that they cannot knock shane out....pbf cannot simply move to keep shane off....shane is gonna touch him several times. even in pbf's best performances, he has been hit! lol keep in mind, when elite fights elite; there are changes in the numbers game. meaning; the things that floyd did so well vs, one of his opponents (that just made an annoucement that he is moving back to 135lbs) lol..he will not be able to do against shane....a stronger, bigger, or just as fast opponent. shane had this same issue years ago (vernon-winky) that floyd is gonna run into on may 1... but dont worry floyd fans,,,,,a lost is gonna do you and floyd some good. it will make him either challenge himself more or will make him crack....it we help you fellas in your recognoition of propaganda and make you more aware of what an all-around pound for pound #1 fighter should look like.

I might think that Floyd fighting at WW would be a problem against Mosley if it was his second or third fight. Floyd's body has matured into a true WW body so the power every body keeps talking about won't be as much of a factor. This fight will come down to skill and who executes the better strategy. To say that Mosley is going to knock Mayweather out or Mayweather is going to outbox Mosley is pure speculation.

The highlights are all nice and fun to watch but they were not fighting each other. Neither fighter has faced another fighter with the skill and style that they will encounter come May 1. Also take into consideration that the highlights are when these 2 were younger. Age does play a factor in how they will fight. No boxer fights the same as time wears on. All great boxers adjust as they age especially elite ones. Hopkins, Toney, etc all used their boxing acumen more as they got older more than relying on their speed and power. This should be a good fight.

[Rome-By-Ko]

i dont think he is saying that...there are gonna be some times during this fight where shane is gonna force floyd to fight; other times pbf is gonna use his footwork and make shane box. when those pbf boxing moment arise; shane has to be prepared to effectively box with him....hence the blue print. fellas, stop acting like pbf is just gonna out-box the **** outta shane,,,it aint happening. though not as pretty or proficient as floyd, shane can box too. he has been boxing since he was a baby. yall forget that because he can punch and loves to man up in the ring...he is the whole package! do not sleep on this man on may 1

MY were you been at educator droping bomb's my dude