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mayweatger is overrated
mayweather is overrated. Never faced a true welter but now hes about to get KO. Plus a fight moestley vs pac is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more interesting than running man mayweather.
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Mosley is a mature fighter. Even in his most aggressive performances he doesn't fight mad. Shane doesn't need a reason to explode. If the situation calls for it he will go all out.
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****m and dlh have both hinted that the strategy to beat floyd on may 1st, is in place. imho, shane is the right type of boxer/puncher to pull it off...i believe that floyd will have a big puzzle in front of him as well. shane is not an easy fighter to deal with at 147lbs...i
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Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View PostWhile I understand yor point I offer you this. If you have NOT sparred with Floyd does that make you less knowledgable abut things that you see in the ring? Also does it(If you are a student of Boxing)help to hone, sharpen, and fine tune your boxing sense? If you a Soldier who has never been to WAR do I turn a deaf ear to your experience of the military through your eyes? Awaiting a response from you on these questions that I have posed.
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sorry but that one dude is wrong talking bout posters can't see things in floyd. Outsiders always see things insiders don't. Many of times when people are puzzled with someting someone just looking has the answer. You don't have to be an expert to learn & know things.
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the thing with fm is the footwork , he as discussed has different gears he uses as he sees fit or according to the dictates of the fight . certainly a hard straight and accurate jab will present fm as it does all boxers with a problem . Sm got to be on his game and move smartly , in and out and vary not only his jab but his attack to cos fm one of the great defensive fighetrs of all time , extremely hard to hit (even though he fights in the pocket) and as slick as slick ever has been . i reckon its gonna be a foght for the purists , average boxing spectators wont appreciate what they seeing . . . .. my money on fm by way of points
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Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View PostODH is right. Its the jab, but not any old jab a good strong authoritative up-jab. I just posted this for my potna Rome who asked me this very same question. It's alot of reading but here it go if ya'll wanna read it. Feedback is more than welcome as long as it aint that name calling mess ie. Gayweather, *****, *******, Roidhead. I dont get down with that ****.
The key to beating the Floyd we know now, is a fast strong up-jab, behind a tight guard from the southpaw stance. You also cant be scared to hook off the jab. Floyd has a few different gears he uses in the ring depending on his opponent in regards to the use of his jab(when he uses it)
1. Is the soft jab that he uses for spacing. If you are smart when you see him do this he is more then likely setting up his exit strategy; meaning straight right to the head or body is on it's way. But you kind of have to play the game of probability with it because he does hook off of the soft jab(remember this used to be Floyd's money punch and still is, he just doesn't show it in an attept to make you forget it's there).
2. FOOTWORK!!!!! dealing with Floyd involves knowing(feelin) where your feet are(Not like Allen Green who looks at his feet constantly), but keeping your lead foot on the outside of Floyd's(If your a Southpaw), If you are Ortho the you need to have your feet spaced a lil closer together about Shoulder width so that you take small slides to cut the ring off. Too much space in your stance and Floyd will expose it by throwing a lead(right or left) while he's on his way out, leaving you looking for him off balanced(bad combo right there).
3. You have to trick Floyd (or attempt to). The best trap that I could see to set would be to shorten your punches to give him a false sense of range, and wait for him to get comfortable with that range then drop the hammer on him after keeping him in range with a short jab. It's imparative that you out think Floyd. Pressure like JLC doesn't work anymore. He has fixed those mistakes.
You know how they say the law is always one step behind the criminals? Well it also goes for Floyd. His opponent is always one step behind him.
These are just SOME of the things I can see that you have to be able to do to beat Floyd. You cannot throw your punches wide or from too far out with Floyd. It's all about ring smarts, real estate of the ring(can't let Floyd have too much real estate), and strong fundamentals(strong jab). And you have to change the game plan every couple of rounds because he WILL figure you out.
That's all I can come up with by going off of Floyd's tendencies that I can see in my head, but if I watch tape on Floyd I might beable to pick up some of his habits to see how bad they really are. I doubt there are many, because he is constantly adapting to whats in front of him.
My question for all ya'll is this........How and what do you think Shane needs to do in order to solve the boxing puzzle/riddle that is Floyd Mayweather Jr.?
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Originally posted by educator06 View Postyou make great points and im drinking the kool-aid....at the same time i like to hear strategic ideals from those who have been in there with him...i can tell that you know what you are talking about. intresting thing to me is that a lot of people close to the game of boxing are leaning toward shane in this fight. fans and posters here on bs are leaning toward floyd. what does that mean?
As for the boxing insiders leaning towards Shane that's their view, but they have been known to be wrong and right just as much as us fans here on BS. Most of the NFL insiders picked the Colts to win the Super Bowl, and we ALL know how that turned out for them, right?
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