What is the REASON that leads you to believe that Pacquiao is using AAS?

[IMDAZED]

Yet you can't name any of them, can you?

1. He'd been whispered about as a user for a couple years

2. His trainer has worked with several users, has also been whispered about, and also carries the stigma of spearheading Wildcat, a haven for PEDs.

3. Several boxers have come forward to voice their su****ions

4. His refusals and outline for his own testing reeks of a fighter who knows when to be tested and how to beat it.

5. The countless excuses from he and his camp.

6. And to a lesser extent, his unprecedented ability to move through many divisions and retain unbelievable power.

I could go on but elaborating on one of these, quite frankly, is enough.

[S H A R K B O Y]

there were a bunch of reasons to be honest and alot of them were touched upon here.

[tesla_power]

1. He'd been whispered about as a user for a couple years

2. His trainer has worked with several users, has also been whispered about, and also carries the stigma of spearheading Wildcat, a haven for PEDs.

3. Several boxers have come forward to voice their su****ions

4. His refusals and outline for his own testing reeks of a fighter who knows when to be tested and how to beat it.

5. The countless excuses from he and his camp.

6. And to a lesser extent, his unprecedented ability to move through many divisions and retain unbelievable power.

I could go on but elaborating on one of these, quite frankly, is enough.

I believe all are circumstantial evidence IMDAZED.
1. What year or what fight did this happen.
2. Possible but that is just his trainer that we got this correlation. Otherwise, this would throw all the boxers training under WildCard su****ious.
3. Su****ions only. The thing is, with today's modernization, impartiality is not that guaranteed. Do we know if those boxer's form their own opinion or they just read it somewhere
4. possible that still that is just a hunch
5. hardly evidence for me. Excuses are excuses. It sometime does not make sense. Like Floyds excuse not to fight Marg or Cotto because they are not draws.
6. some atg's also did that. pac is not the first to do that.

[IMDAZED]

I believe all are circumstantial evidence IMDAZED.
1. What year or what fight did this happen.
2. Possible but that is just his trainer that we got this correlation. Otherwise, this would throw all the boxers training under WildCard su****ious.
3. Su****ions only. The thing is, with today's modernization, impartiality is not that guaranteed. Do we know if those boxer's form their own opinion or they just read it somewhere
4. possible that still that is just a hunch
5. hardly evidence for me. Excuses are excuses. It sometime does not make sense. Like Floyds excuse not to fight Marg or Cotto because they are not draws.
6. some atg's also did that. pac is not the first to do that.

Yeah, it's all circumstantial. Like the evidence against OJ

He asked for reasons, I gave them. If you want me to elaborate on any, just say so.

[TheNegation]

there were a bunch of reasons to be honest and alot of them were touched upon here.

I asked what YOUR reason is, not how many you could come up with.

It's clear that a heavy percent of the people on this forum don't have a clue about steroids and enjoy talking out of their ass.

[V.WEBB]

Yeah, it's all circumstantial. Like the evidence against OJ

He asked for reasons, I gave them. If you want me to elaborate on any, just say so.

Drop game on #2 bro, what is that all about?

[Ray*]

I dont know much about PED or steriods in the sport myself but the refusal and different excuses made me doubt Manny, If him and the whole team had came out and said "F**k you floyd who the f**k are you to try to dictate testing etc" then i would be firmly behind Manny but they made soooo many excuses i started getting su****ious of manny.

[IMDAZED]

Drop game on #2 bro, what is that all about?

Old rumor about Freaky Freddie supplying his fighters. Still a rumor but in light of everything, I don't doubt it anymore. I did when I first heard it in 2008...or maybe I didn't care.

[Eaner0919]

I asked what YOUR reason is, not how many you could come up with.

It's clear that a heavy percent of the people on this forum don't have a clue about steroids and enjoy talking out of their ass.

why can't it be all of the above? You seem defensive because people want to discuss whether or not he is using

so enjoy I talked about way too often and way too much to do it any further but I will say this

You may or may not know more about PEDs than me. I don't really know or care to know you

however

I know more about this specific case than you could ever imagine

now before you go calling me out with what I know realize if I haven't already said it then chances are I just won't.

so thanks and have fun with your thread

[IMDAZED]

why can't it be all of the above? You seem defensive because people want to discuss whether or not he is using

so enjoy I talked about way too often and way too much to do it any further but I will say this

You may or may not know more about PEDs than me. I don't really know or care to know you

however

I know more about this specific case than you could ever imagine

now before you go calling me out with what I know realize if I haven't already said it then chances are I just won't.

so thanks and have fun with your thread

No, you're just gossiping

I swear, I wish I said something on this board when I first heard about all this mess, just so I wouldn't have to hear people saying, "no one was discussing this until Crackweather Sr said something."