Will both Klitschkos get in the HOF?

[PittyPat]

Collectively and individually they've done what they've needed to do. HOF shoo-ins, without a doubt.

[flexxx145]

I was recently reading though some all threads after the Peter fight, and people said that Vitali getting in the HOF depended on what he did after winning the title, so now that he has defended it for a few times (every time against top HWs, no easy fights), what do you think?

I think they will and they rightly deserve to make it. But it's not their fault if they don't because their division just sucks!

[IMDAZED]

Right now he is, along with Wlad. Remember he's still fighting, what would you say if he beats Valuev and Haye this year?

Right now he is either #1 or #2. Which one is he? Because if he's #2, then he's NOT dominating. Again, stop pretending Wlad and he are one person. They aren't. Their accomplishments stand on their own.

[Pirao]

Right now he is either #1 or #2. Which one is he? Because if he's #2, then he's NOT dominating. Again, stop pretending Wlad and he are one person. They aren't. Their accomplishments stand on their own.

So say, before Margarito and Cotto fought neither was dominating? Usually two dominating fighters fight to be the man in the division, so yeah two fighters can be cominating.

You know Wlad and Vitali will never fight, that doesn't mean they can't still put a good enough resume (individually) to get in the HOF.

[IMDAZED]

So say, before Margarito and Cotto fought neither was dominating? Usually two dominating fighters fight to be the man in the division, so yeah two fighters can be cominating.

You know Wlad and Vitali will never fight, that doesn't mean they can't still put a good enough resume (individually) to get in the HOF.

Read the bolded carefully. Think about it.

Again, their merits stand on their own and Vitali Klitschko "dominating" several years ago for a grand total of 10 months won't cut it.

[Pirao]

Read the bolded carefully. Think about it.

Again, their merits stand on their own and Vitali Klitschko "dominating" several years ago for a grand total of 10 months won't cut it.

We just have different definitions of dominating apparently, you think only one fighter in a division can dominate, while I do not.

[IMDAZED]

We just have different definitions of dominating apparently, you think only one fighter in a division can dominate, while I do not.

Define dominate.

[Pirao]

Define dominate.

Fight top contenders consistently and beat them conclusively.

[IMDAZED]

Fight top contenders consistently and beat them conclusively.

Do you have to fight and beat the top guy in order to be considered dominant?

[Pirao]

Do you have to fight and beat the top guy in order to be considered dominant?

No, you have to do it to be undisputed/unified. As I've said earlier, when there's a fight to determine the man in a division, it's a fight between fighters who have been dominating the rest of the contenders up until that point.