M. Moorer Best Light HW Ever

[The Pretender]

well thats wrong though i do sometimes think the world has gone P.C. mad.

if you can call a brit a limey , an american a yank then why not a german a kraut.

its not offensive to me anyway.

case of double standards in some cases i think. but i digress form the topic

sorry.

Americans dont care if you call them yanks, they call themselves yanks (yankees) if they from the northern states. In fact, they proud of that. NY Yankees, yankee doodle dandee, etc. Not the same thing.

[oldgringo]

Moorer was an excellent Light Heavy and would have given any other Light Heavy a lot of trouble and could have possibly beaten some of them. You want to talk about impressive? How about 22 wins all by KO at 175...

Moorer was a southpaw with a good right jab and a big left hand behind it. He was pretty quick himself and had good power in both hands. It's also logical to think that he took a much better shot at this weight. I don't know if a Roy Jones or a Billy Conn beats him at this weight or not. Ezzard Charles would have beat him just because he was a monster at 175 and could KO someone with either hand backing up. Not to mention he was more skilled than like 80%-90% of all boxers ever.

Archie Moore was a devastating puncher so he would have been an interesting bout for Moorer. I say if Moorer could avoid getting hit with anything too nasty or an accumulation of power shots then he could pull out the decision. I'd bet on Archie wearing him down and dropping him a couple times en route to a late TKO or decision.

[cple]

Moorer isn't near the top 15 lt. heavyweights of all-time. His record might look nice, but just look at the opposition. Not hall of fame material.

Lt. heavyweights that were greater than Moorer (no particular order)

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Michael Spinks
4. Sam Langford
5. Bob Foster
6. Gene Tunney
7. Tommy Loughran
8. Billy Conn
9. Maxie Rosenbloom
10. Harold Johnson
11. Roy Jones
12. Matthew Saad Muhammad
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
15. Bob Fitzsimmons
16. Joey Maxim
17. Victor Galindez

...and many, many more.

[triggerhappy]

that is not rjj i like what you did with photoshop.

[oldgringo]

Moorer isn't near the top 15 lt. heavyweights of all-time. His record might look nice, but just look at the opposition. Not hall of fame material.

Lt. heavyweights that were greater than Moorer (no particular order)

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Michael Spinks
4. Sam Langford
5. Bob Foster
6. Gene Tunney
7. Tommy Loughran
8. Billy Conn
9. Maxie Rosenbloom
10. Harold Johnson
11. Roy Jones
12. Matthew Saad Muhammad
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
15. Bob Fitzsimmons
16. Joey Maxim
17. Victor Galindez

...and many, many more.

Would you say that these guys would all beat him? Because I certainly don't think that way. I know he really didn't fight anyone at this weight but just looking at the skills he possessed here leads me to believe that he could have stacked up with any other Lt. Heavy ever. We also know that he could get off the canvas to win (unless of course Big George is hitting him).

[TheGreat1]

oo all of them would beat moorer

IF Moorer can beat Holyfield, why wouldn't you give him a chance against the others. remember he was much more dominate at LHW

[The Troll]

Greatest Light Heavyweight, as well as top 10 fighter of all time.

Roy Jones Jr was not even best Light Heavyweight of his time at let alone best ever. Jones never faced Michalczewski Rochigiani or Michael Nunn. The way Jones got his belts at light heavyweight was Michalczewski was stripped of the WBA because he decided to hang onto his WBO and they would not let him have both at the same time. And he was stripped of the IBF for some other reason. Graciano Rochigiani won the WBC title from winning a split descsioin over Michael Nunn. After he beat Nunn the WBC ordered him to defend the title within 30 days knowing full well he would not be able recover from his fight and train to defend in 30 days. Rochigiani sewed the WBC for that action and was awarded 25$ million dollars. Jones was a paper champion at Light Heavyweight. He never beat any of the other champion. He got all his belts from the stripped titles of Michalczewski and Rochigiani in title eliminators.

Jones never faced any of the champions at Light Heavyweight. He never faced Dariusz Michalczewski who had 25 successfull defences of the WBO title 21 by KO or Rochigiani or Michael Nunn. Michalczewski was the real champion because he beat the champ Virgil Hill for the WBA and IBF and he beat Rochigiani TKO 10 who was the real WBC champion before he was stripped.

Jones ownes anybody at middleweight but Light Heavyweight.....no no no no. Tarver Ko 2 Johnson KO 7 And Glen Johnson "the road warrior" was whipped by several of the guys Michalczewski made defences against.

[TheGreat1]

Spinks will be regarded, correctly, as a top-five LHeavy of all-time. I believe that Spinks sits at #1 or #2 position for all-time. Moorer's legacy doesn't approach that of Spinks.

I understand and agree with you, i just never understood why Moorer never got any credit for what he accomplished there. He was a champion his 1st year. winning 13 fights in his 1st year, winning all by ko, then he ko'd everyone he faced. That has to say something, Defending and winning by ko in every fight.

[Yogi]

LOL!

No, Michael Moorer is not the best light heavyweight ever, nor is he even remotely close to being one of the all-time ten best.

****, by far the best fighter he fought at 175 was Leslie Stewart, and Stewart was actually outboxing Moorer in that fight before getting caught in the 8th round. On an all-time scale, Leslie Stewart ain't ****, so you could just imagine what the elite all-timers at this weight would've done to Moorer.

[TheGreat1]

LOL!

No, Michael Moorer is not the best light heavyweight ever, nor is he even remotely close to being one of the all-time ten best.

****, by far the best fighter he fought at 175 was Leslie Stewart, and Stewart was actually outboxing Moorer in that fight before getting caught in the 8th round. On an all-time scale, Leslie Stewart ain't ****, so you could just imagine what the elite all-timers at this weight would've done to Moorer.

whats that out box him until 9 or 10 rounds before being KO'd?
i guess moorer will never get his just Due, dispite being LHW champ and 2 time world HW champ.