Is Just Size a Dominant Factor - Klitschkos, etc

[Torino]

Good points. Not sure about the whole black thing on some points.

Hard to be good and white and not be called "hype".

I agree with this portion of your reply. Vdiary raises some valid questions.

However, I don't think I've ever seen or even heard about any statistical data generated proving that black people have better stamina, are athletes, chins, and so on, than other races.

I believe there is an acceptance that generally black people have an advantage in their skull structure around the eye brow (more blunt and dull) reducing the cut factor above the eye.

IMO - The black dominance in many sports has been more a product of environment.

People are People and mostly the same. Unless your McKay.

[Konstantin]

It seems to me that because of where they came up from that black people seem to be in general more athletic.
I dont want to sound racist but if you look at the last several years of sports the best atheletes are blacks. Micheal Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, Garnett, (dont know any football players but there are probably a lot of these guys)

And if you watched the olypmics the fastest men in the planet (the 100yrd sprinters) top 10 were I think all black...

[splittingatoms]

Sorry, the thread was not about your opinion on the HW division.

i dont give a **** what the thread is about ****** ass.i just say what is evident is your paper champ and the HW division as a whole.i dont need nor want your approval on anything i type on here.and this forum is about typeing not about grammer and proper punctuation.seems to me that you read my comments pretty clear or you wouldnt have said something about it.just because yopur guy is in the weakest era of the HW division and alot of people think he is a joke dont mena you have to get mad at me,your guy is just an average HW.he will be nothing more.when lewis stepped down your guy became a paper champ because he didnt beat the man who beat the man.vit has no skills other than his size and i think thats what the thread was about.and the comments on black people being better atheletes can be traced back to slave days in america.white slave owners breed the biggest and strongest blacks they could so the could work hard for them.i know im gonna get flamed for saying that but its true.when you breed race horses you breed the biggest and fastest mare and stud you can find.it was no different during slave times.think about it.

[splittingatoms]

and this forum is about typeing not about grammer and proper punctuation

i meant this forum is about boxing not grammer or proper punctuation!!!!!!!

[!! Mr. Soprano]

i meant this forum is about boxing not grammer or proper punctuation!!!!!!!

It's a forum where you should conceder that other people might want to read your junk thoughts. Therefore make it presentable and readable for others. I'm not even attempting to read your posts as you are just a waste of my time.

[splittingatoms]

I'm not even attempting to read your posts as you are just a waste of my time.

and you my friend,is a load that your mother should have swallowed...i dont give a **** about you not reading my post.i have more boxing knowledge in my lil toe then in that pea brain head of yours.the closest your prolly ever got to a boxing ring is the one you see on tv.i know i know.it just hurts when someone actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to your paper champ vit quitscko.

[Manny_P]

I dunno bout black peeps havin best stamina in any sports. It has to do wit wit peeps and environment/society. I dunno.

[marvelous_TG]

there are differences between white and black athletes,
blacks have in general longer legs and arms, and smaller body, whites have bigger body's with smaller arms and legs in general.
indeed blacks dominate 100meters sprints because they have more fast twitch muscle fibers, wich are explosive muscles, so they can run hard for short period of time, they tire quickly those muscles, whites are stronger(in general) look at strong man competition or all strength sports, arm wrestling, olympic weightlifting, strongman competition etc. chin nobody has a edge although if you look at history in boxing whites tend to have the better chins, best heavy chin ever tex cobb, chuvalo(both white) lamotta etc. but ofcourse you have blacks with great chins too hagler, holyfield etc. so every race has it's advantage. it's obvious in american football the runners are usually black, and those quaterback are usually white.

but the differences are very small indeed, 2 olympics ago it was a white man the greek who won the 100 m so there are exceptions, and still the most important factor is envirment, back in the days you had a lot of white guys in boxing because they where poor too, now most white people are rich and blacks are still pooor so they go in sports, but even blacks get richer, that's why they don't box anymore look at heavyweight division.

[moochi]

WELL OF COURSE it is size............if a middleweight contender is 1 poun d heavier than his opponent, he can't fight him.

So you have the heavyweight division with no limit. So it is very unfair to those 100kg/220lb 6'2" boxers who fight the huge Klitschko's, Valuev, Whitaker, etc...

Look at Etienne vs Valuev...there was a 10inch or so height advantage and a whopping 53kg/115lb difference...

I've said it before and I say it again, if VT or WK were 6'2, you never would have heard of them.......this is the reason why i don't respect the HW division...many many match-ups are not fair.

[guru]

size is an advantage, but not a dominating factor..... that's why grant, mccline and jefferson cant beat a decent heavyweight with skills... they have size and strenght, but little skill...