Is Just Size a Dominant Factor - Klitschkos, etc

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  • !! Mr. Soprano
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    Is Just Size a Dominant Factor - Klitschkos, etc

    I've posted the below content in another thread, but no one responded as the thread was already chewed over and done with (sorry Anorak)
    Thus I decided to make it a new thread and wanted to hear your opinions

    The below is not meant to offend anyone, not Klitschko fans/haters, nor Hopkins, where I just used him as an example. Here it goes:
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    One thing that bothers me...
    I don't mean the below thoughts to be racist, or to offend anyone.

    But everyone always refers to Klitschko's as "Giants". "The reason they are so good is because of their size." "If they were smaller they would be crushed" and etc..
    Yes, those are all true statements. But how come their disadvantages are never taken into consideration.
    It is a known fact that black people have much better stamina, naturally more athletic, have better chins, don't get cut as easily, and last but not least breath easier due to bigger nostrils.
    Do you think all that equates to size advantage?

    How really big are the Klitschko's compared to their competition?
    I did a little statistics where I took Top 20 guys from Boxrec and averaged their height and weight. Here are my findings below:

    Vitali's Hight: +almost 4 inches above the competition
    Vitali's Weight: +5.5lb above competition

    Wlad's Hight: + almost 2.5 inches above competition
    Wlad's Weight: -3.5lb above competition

    Is that such a huge difference, especially in Wlad's case? He is only 2.5 inches taller on average than the rest. And is 3.5 pound lighter. Most of us are saying he should still drop 5-10 pounds. So are they really that much "bigger" and do they really have all that advantage everyone talks about?

    I did the same statistics for our P4P King: Bernard Hopkins and his division.

    Hopkins is also like Wlad is almost 2.5 inches above the rest in the division. (Weight of course is not a factor)
    How come no one is saying "Hopkins is so good because of his size"?


    Your thoughts.
  • czars_salad
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    #2
    i thought there were talks (im not sure) of adding a superheavyweight division.....

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    • Super_Lightweight
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      #3
      hmm

      Good points. I never looked at it like that. Not sure about the whole black thing on some points but I agree with most of your post.

      Hard to be good and white and not be called "hype".

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      • !! Mr. Soprano
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        #4
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        Good points. I never looked at it like that. Not sure about the whole black thing on some points but I agree with most of your post.

        Hard to be good and white and not be called "hype".
        Thanks :-)

        What are the things you disagree with?

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        • splittingatoms
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          i for one think that vit klit only has his size going for him.he fights flatfooted,his power isnt that great,has very limited boxing skills,almost no defence,and has robotic movment.out of the three paper champs that we have ,vit is the better of the three,only because of his size.byrd's skills are way better than vits.but byrd lacks power big time,thats why he is such a boring fighter to watch.the only one of the champs thats skills are 100 times worse than vits is john "i love holding and dancing with men in the ring" ruiz.now wlad on the other hand actually has skills.he has a damn good jab,awesome combos when he puts them together.had good defence until he got tagged by sanders.he is a shattered boxer ever since that KO loss to sanders.it is like he is gun shy.scared to get hit.i dont think he will ever be as good as he was before the sanders fight.right nwow the HW division is shyt and looks like its going to stay that way for a long time.

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            #6
            Originally posted by splittingatoms
            i for one think that vit klit only has his size going for him.he fights flatfooted,his power isnt that great,has very limited boxing skills,almost no defence,and has robotic movment.out of the three paper champs that we have ,vit is the better of the three,only because of his size.byrd's skills are way better than vits.but byrd lacks power big time,thats why he is such a boring fighter to watch.the only one of the champs thats skills are 100 times worse than vits is john "i love holding and dancing with men in the ring" ruiz.now wlad on the other hand actually has skills.he has a damn good jab,awesome combos when he puts them together.had good defence until he got tagged by sanders.he is a shattered boxer ever since that KO loss to sanders.it is like he is gun shy.scared to get hit.i dont think he will ever be as good as he was before the sanders fight.right nwow the HW division is shyt and looks like its going to stay that way for a long time.
            Sorry, the thread was not about your opinion on the HW division.

            Word of advise though...
            Next time you post, use a space after period, Capitalize the first letter of a sentence and try to sum up your thoughts in paragraphs. Makes it easier for all to read.

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            • joeboxer
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              #7
              Good comment on the last poster but VDiary come on........


              "It is a known fact that black people have better Stamina"

              NO. ITS NOT.

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              • Enayze
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                Vitali does have skills. A man of his size, you most definately have to have boxing ability in order to be champion. Do you know how hard it is to go at the pace Vitali goes when standing at 6'8 250IB? Vitali brings a new style to boxing. Many might find it un appealing and cause of that say he has no skills. Although in reality his style developed through his boxing ability. Size is just an added factor.

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                • !! Mr. Soprano
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by joeboxer
                  Good comment on the last poster but VDiary come on........


                  "It is a known fact that black people have better Stamina"

                  NO. ITS NOT.
                  I'm not picking on anyone is particular.
                  You don't think that Black people have naturally better physical condition? I believe that in most sports where stamina is a factor, black athletes usually dominate

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                  • !! Mr. Soprano
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Enayze
                    Vitali does have skills. A man of his size, you most definately have to have boxing ability in order to be champion. Do you know how hard it is to go at the pace Vitali goes when standing at 6'8 250IB? Vitali brings a new style to boxing. Many might find it un appealing and cause of that say he has no skills. Although in reality his style developed through his boxing ability. Size is just an added factor.
                    Enayze,

                    Something leads me to believe that you just read the title, or the whole thread?

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