Manny Pacquiao best southpaw ever??

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  • jrosales13
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    #111
    Originally posted by big_james10
    What a crock of ****? Manny Pacquaio would not even rank among the top 20 southpaws of all time, let alone the best of all time. I am so sick of seeing all of the ****** ass threads about Pacquaio being the best of all time from the Pacquaio servants; and by servants, I mean the fans on this site as well as the bloggers of this site and everyone else who can't see beyond the last two years of their lives.
    And, you're talking about Pac being ranked as the best is a crock of **** and you going to make a statement like that? Pac has a better case of being the greatest southpaw ever then you have a case of him not belonging in the top 20 southpaws of all time... Rank 20 higher and tell me why they deserve to be higher than Pac....

    Originally posted by big_james10
    By the way, for all the clowns on here who talk about his seven titles in seven divisions, keep in mind that until about 30 years ago, there were only about half the weight classes there are now and only two championship organizations, so you can't compare what Pacquaio is doing now to what someone did 30 years ago before the IBF and WBO and all the junior divisions existed.
    30yrs and Pac is the only on who done it... If it is so easy somebody in those 30yrs would of done it by now... Especially if Pac is really not that good and there are so many fighters who are better than him. Then why did nobody else accomplished before he did in those 30yrs? But, you do have a point and that is why I made sure to point out that the featherweight division and flyweight division and the lineal belt have been around for over a 100yrs... So you can compare that to what fighters from a 100yrs ago... Yet Pac has been only man ever to win a lineal belt in those weight-classes...

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      #112
      Originally posted by SkilledB
      p-will, hands down, better defense and u cant deny that.

      manny is second
      Is this for real?

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #113
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Like I said a lot of ATG outgrew the Flyweight division, quick still didn't accomplish what Pac did... So pac shouldn't of been able to do that. Especially since those weight-classes have been around for over 100yrs...

        The catch-weight was done for an unfair advantage? It could be done for a fair advantage... What was the difference between this catch-weight and all the other ones? You don't think Chavez who was the lineal champ at 140 wanted the 145 against Whitaker to get an "unfair advantage"? Or don't you think that Whitaker who easily made 147 making Chavez come up to 145 who never had a good win above 140 was an "unfair advantage"? You don't think Oscar making Pac who only had 1 fight at 135 and by all account was against a bum asking him to got 147 was an "unfair advantage"? I mean Cotto was a top 3 WW, a heavy handed WW... Pac only other WW fight was against a guy who by all accounts was walking dead at 147. There was no proof that Pac could take a true WW punch... So the catch-weight at 145, which is 1 pound less than what Cotto weight in his previous fight, could be seen as to keep it fair from both sides.... Mind you even you knowing that it was at 145 still thought Cotto was going to win. So how can you say it looks like purely for an unfair advantage?

        What the odds show is that who the majority of people on voting on winning. Odds show people thought Hagler was going to win those fight, people Pac was going to lose those fights... And, that is that point...

        Given a guy Cottos size and his history with weight I think it was unfair. Not to mention Pac had just fought at 147 before and still had speed, power and stamina and quickness. There was no need to do that to Cotto. 2 Pounds makes a big difference. If they didnt need an advantage they wouldn't had asked for it. Floyd didnt move up and demand catch weights.

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          #114
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Given a guy Cottos size and his history with weight I think it was unfair. Not to mention Pac had just fought at 147 before and still had speed, power and stamina and quickness. There was no need to do that to Cotto. 2 Pounds makes a big difference. If they didnt need an advantage they wouldn't had asked for it. Floyd didnt move up and demand catch weights.
          WW was what Pac 9th weight-class? What catch-weight did Pac asked for in his 5th weight-class? That is somewhat of a ****** comment cuz I seriously doubt Floyd will go 8 weight-classes higher from where he won his first belt and not ask for a catch-weight...

          Why mentioned Cotto 2 pounds when in his previous fight he weight 146? The fight was not at 144 it was at 145... Which means 1 pound from Cotto last fight... And, you said Pac still had his speed, power, stamina, and quicknesss in his previous fight at WW.... But, all I hear from you guys is that Oscar was old and severely weight-drained. So Pac had all that compared to a fighter who walking dead. It still was not known if he could take a true WW punch. That is one of the reasons you picked against him right? Now you want to say it was an unfair advantage cuz somehow Pac won quite easily then fine...

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            #115
            Well, after I sat back I remembered the names Hector Camacho, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker,.........a question of rating.

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