Manny Pacquiao best southpaw ever??

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  • check hook
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    You can't say all the cherrypicking you want... But, you can not accomplish what he has accomplished without your skillset being up to par... If that is the case then all the other guys who are "more skilled" would accomplished what he has... So obvious his skills is up to par... Give me your top 5 right now... Lets see it...

    And, tell me who is a better win in Floyd resume then that first Barrera fight? Who Castillo? The guys who was coming off two controversial decisions agaisnt Steive Johnston... Who Chicanito Hernandez in his fairwell fight? A past prime Oscar? Who didn't get a significant win after that fight... Corrales? Really we going to put Corrales higher than Barrera? What his best win to date before fighting Floyd? Angel Manfreddy? Somebody who Floyd destroyed first in 2 rounds... Zab Judah? Really? Ricky Hatton? Really? Who exactly was better than that version of Barrera?

    Pac has made history it laughable for anybody to even try and make a case that he does not belong in the top 5...


    Would Barrera or Morales beat Corrales at 130????

    Would the PAc who fought at 130 beat Corrales.......consider the styles here....by that i mean stylistically what does Corrales bring to the fight vs what does Pac bring?

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    • corpse elf
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      #42
      Originally posted by baracuda
      a 29 year old and a 30 year old erik.....pac's the only one to ever ko him and he it was'nt even the best version of packy!........
      hahahahaha im not even gonna BOTHER u telling u the difference between boxing age and regular age...i'd rather u be ******....

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        #43
        Originally posted by baracuda
        all of em!......
        Typical f**king *******. Not even worth arguing with.

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          #44
          Originally posted by southpaw2884
          i saw this promo for the fight march 13th and burt sugar(boxing historian) said that manny might be the GREATEST left hander of all time. they made me sit back and think... is he???
          It's him or Hagler. Hagler possibly the greatest middleweight ever.

          Whitaker is behind them both. i'm sorry but Whitakers resume doesn't stack up to Haglers or the Pacmans.

          At 160 in his prime I can't see too many people beating Hagler. Even his loss to Leonard was...meh...did he really lose? I don't even think Hopkins get's the win over Hagler.

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            #45
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Like I said it takes CAREFUL matchmaking. You put lineal on top to make it look better. Then you say Lineal doesnt mean **** in regards to Baldimir. I didnt say he wasnt skilled. I said hes not AS skilled or better yet HIGHLY skilled. This guy was a one hand fighter most of his career. I mean cmon bro. You sandwich him in between guys like Hags and Sweet Pea?

            I mean and another thing which is it? You guys say Pac was a starving kid early in his career. So if he is starting to fill out once hes get some grub and cant make weight anymore after beating Saskul so much so to the point that he SKIPPED 2 weight classes altogether then won a featherweight belt. So its not that impressive. Let that sink in.
            Burner your history knowledge suppose to be better than this... You can't go that many divisions with carefull matchmaking without skills being up to par Burner... If you look at the ranking Burner at the time. Pac fougth at worst the #3 guy(Diaz, Cotto) in every weight-class he fought in. And, it was only in 2 weight-class all the othere ones were the #1 or #2... At 126 it was both #1 and #2... I mean you can't go through all those weight-classes fighting those rank fighters at the time and be successful without having the skillset to be up to par.

            Freddie Steele was a starving flyweight as a teenager, he went on to become a MW great, yet his glory all the way up to MW did not accomplish what Pac did on his way up to WW, Jimmy McClarnin but Pac still accomplish more all the way up to WW... McClarnin just accomplished more at WW then Pac... There have been many case of starving ATG's at flyweight who moved up and had a great career yet didn't accomplish what Pac did... Just let that sink in for a second... I know you having trouble with this... But, if you really know the history of the sport like you say you do... Just think and see how foolish it is not to have this man in the top 3....

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              #46
              Originally posted by corpse elf
              hahahahaha im not even gonna BOTHER u telling u the difference between boxing age and regular age...i'd rather u be ******....
              Morales was def battle worn in comparison but Pacquiao certainly wasn't at his peak either it works both ways.

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                #47
                Originally posted by check hook
                Would Barrera or Morales beat Corrales at 130????

                Would the PAc who fought at 130 beat Corrales.......consider the styles here....by that i mean stylistically what does Corrales bring to the fight vs what does Pac bring?
                That is like saying would Corrales beat Cotto at 145... P4P That version of Barrera>Corrales... Really what was Corrales claim to that point? Manfreddy?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Erik in the second and third fights was past it and weight drained racist.

                  Age doesnt matter in boxing.

                  Look at Vargas, Taylor and Cotto.
                  no he ws'nt......you ever think why no one supported you but two of your fellow dumbasses about me being a racist?.....because your the racist **** and a ****ing liar!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I think Whitaker beats him... Then who? Camacho at what weight? And, before or after Edwin Rosario? Like give me the southpaws that you think would beat him? The weight has to be a factor, you can't name Hagler since he is a MW. Pac wasn't as well rounded in the lower weight-classes as he is now... So yea Galaxy and too sharp probably beats since there was at there best there...
                    Sweet Pea
                    Galaxy
                    Austin
                    Camacho
                    Salvidar
                    Tendler
                    Ramirez
                    S. Johnston
                    Johnson





                    This one of my main points . He does not have the talent to beat these guys.


                    In a P4P Sense:

                    Winky
                    Hagler
                    Byrd
                    Nunn


                    Now if you say he achieved more then some of them coo. But in the ring no way.
                    Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 03-01-2010, 12:05 AM.

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                    • baracuda
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by rabagiyo
                      Typical f**king *******. Not even worth arguing with.
                      says the guy who says pac never fought in the philippines.......****ing idiot!

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