Manny Pacquiao best southpaw ever??

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Lew Tendler is the best southpaw of all time

Yeah I mentioned him on my list. Man Pac wanst to be up there with the greats he needs to stop with the 145, shot **** and start fighting.

Beating David Diaz, Hatton shot, Oscar shot and Cotto at 145 AND damaged goods. And Barerra and JMM isnt enough to make you the Number 2 ATG when he hasnt even fought the best guy in his era yet.

[johncods]

behind whitaker..? but if he fights and beats the winner of mosley-mayweather then definitely the best southpaw ever..

[baracuda]

hell yes....and who knows this better than a well educated boxing historian.....

[southpaw2884]

no ceilings thats wild how no one gets credit where its due. he still beat fighters who A. thought they can beat him and B. alot of people thought so too like the oscar fight and the cotto fight. i am not convinced that pac is a greatest of all time but he a very good fighter and willing to fight anyone

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Even without him finishing his career at worst he is at #3 right now... After the JMM rematch he was ahead of all those guys in the bold... IMO in the last 4 fights he jumped over Hagler... But, like I said there is a case that can be made for Hagler being ahead of him.... But, is pointless to start naming the rest when they have zero case to being ahead of Pac...

Why? Why is he even Top 5. Explain it to a causall fan. Lets pretend I just started watching boxing yesterday. How we can say he is a Top 5 Lefty. His skills arent up to Par and his wins arent. His best win to this day is Barerra.

[southpaw2884]

lol when you put it like i see your point thats like putting floyd in the same conversation as sugar ray robinson right??

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

no ceilings thats wild how no one gets credit where its due. he still beat fighters who A. thought they can beat him and B. alot of people thought so too like the oscar fight and the cotto fight. i am not convinced that pac is a greatest of all time but he a very good fighter and willing to fight anyone

You will never here me say he isnt a good fighter. He is not the most skilled but he wins. He is one of the greatest lefties ever. But when we start saying Top 5 I have a problem with that.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

lol when you put it like i see your point thats like putting floyd in the same conversation as sugar ray robinson right??

Basically........He is not as great as Robinson. Not even close. Him and Pac combined cant reach Robinson or Ali or Greb or Armstrong.

[jrosales13]

Why? Why is he even Top 5. Explain it to a causall fan. Lets pretend I just started watching boxing yesterday. How we can say he is a Top 5 Lefty. His skills arent up to Par and his wins arent. His best win to this day is Barerra.

His best win Barrera is nothing to sneeze at... Hell that win is better win than any win on Floyd resume... Who says his skills is not up to par? You? He went from Flyweight to WW as a top fighter. You can't do that without your skills beign up to par... Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson very skilled fighter couldn't go fro Flyweight to WW... Nobody has won 4 lineal titles... Nobody... If I am lying mentioned one... 5 major titles in 5 divisions plus 2 lineal in 2 other divisions which adds up to 7 in 7... Nobody has done that... Nobody... First fighter ever, ever, ever won the lineal flyweight title and a lineal featherweight... Let that sink in for a second in a over 100yrs of boxing nobody has accomplished that. In over a 100yrs in boxing. You can not accomplish that without your skills being up to par... In every weight-class he fought at worst he fought the third best fighter on there... after that everybody was ranked #1 or #2 at the time he fought them... To even insinuate that a case can be made that he is not even in the top proves that you started watching boxing yesterday... There is no pretending....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

His best win Barrera is nothing to sneeze at... Hell that win is better win than any win on Floyd resume.

"Says who? You?"

.. Who says his skills is not up to par? You? He went from Flyweight to WW as a top fighter. You can't do that without your skills beign up to par

Out of your top 3 lefties who has the LEAST amount of skill?

... Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson very skilled fighter couldn't go fro Flyweight to WW...

Thats not a skill issue its a weight and body type issue. JMM is HIGHLY skilled and hes **** past 135. So I dont get that point.

Nobody has won 4 lineal titles... Nobody... If I am lying mentioned one... 5 major titles in 5 divisions plus 2 lineal in 2 other divisions which adds up to 7 in 7... Nobody has done that... Nobody... First fighter ever, ever, ever won the lineal flyweight title and a lineal featherweight...

So which is it does Lineal matter or not? One minute The belts and Lineal dont man **** then when it regards Pac it does. Bro that **** takes timing and CAREFUL matchmaking. Which is why it wont be done again. Thats a once in a lifetime feat. Secondly when Armstrong was around he didnt have the pleasure of cherrypicking a David Diaz or a 145 damaged Cotto he had to fight THEE GUY.


Let that sink in for a second in a over 100yrs of boxing nobody has accomplished that. In over a 100yrs in boxing. You can not accomplish that without your skills being up to par...

In over 100 years of boxing who has went through 5 weight classes undefeated? Let that sink in.I can easily do the same thing.


In every weight-class he fought at worst he fought the third best fighter on there... after that everybody was ranked #1 or #2 at the time he fought them... To even insinuate that a case can be made that he is not even in the top proves that you started watching boxing yesterday... There is no pretending....

When he beats the best fighter of his era then we can talk.

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