No matter what any of you *******s say...

[Dehydrator]

Im an adult, it sounds like what im saying seriously hurts your feelings. Why not try picking out a post and providing your own evidence otherwise in the form or fashion on how NSB works, you should know this given your seriously high rep.for starters this whole fiasco is "hear say" from both sides but for reasons I have stated previously in this thread the one to blame is for the fight not happening is Manny Pacquiao.

Kid, I looked at your previous posts and I've seen that you're really butt hurt on what happened with your favorite boxer. I chose to debate you because you're full of ****. You posted things that flame a certain group of fans while huthuggin' a certain fighter.

I'm also a Cotto fan but I accepted the fact the he lost to a great fighter. You just became a Mayweather fan because of what happened with your favorite fighter. You need to move on and STFU.

[mazdaru]

no matter what you haters say... Pacquiao has never failed a drug test.

no matter what you say, neither did Shane.

FAIL

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Not trying to put them down but they get me mad. Their nationalism is so ****ing annoying that its a sure thing they are blinded by it. Every where I go its pinoy this pinoy that. I remember when some article was saying how it was just found that Nate Robinson is believed to be 1/8th pinoy from like his great geat geat grandma and that the Phillipino president or some **** was going to get him to play for the phillipines. WTF? I have never seen such nationalism obsession before.

its funny how a fanbase has your panties all twisted...perhaps ignoring those posts might help you in honing these uncontrolled PMS symptoms

[fightingfigs]

Pacquiao has the mass riches of CORRUPT Philippine money WAITING for him...he doesn't have the IRS hounding him...his body of work is above Floyd's...if anyone needed this fight, it was Floyd

and yes, that 'hunch' will forever affect the life of Floyd...it will yet be ANOTHER fighter in his era that he had an excuse NOT to fight





dont worry Equinox...noone takes your half-empty arguments seriously either...i just felt like poking more holes in your ******ed stance on floyd 'cleaning' up the entire sport by making his demands exclusive to certain fighters that pose a threat

I guess in talking money you are right, but legacy wise this whole situation was severely detrimental to Manny Pacquaios side more than Floyd Mayweathers. to many Pacquiao supporters it has been deemed an excuse to get out of the fight. But in history it will looked at in the chronological form that it happened which is Pacquiao turned down the drug tests.

This is not to say his legacy is tarnished by any means necessary, he will go down as a boxing great if he does or does not fight Mayweather. but there will always be that lingering question or thought that he may have accomplished such goals with the help of PED or Steroids.

I feel if he took the tests (given he has nothing to hide), Mayweather still wouldve found a way to get out of the fight by different means. Mayweather was swinging for the fences with that demand and it worked.

[mazdaru]

you *******s are ******ed. can waait to see yalls excuses when pac gives into test, gets in the ring and gets his ass handed to him

i can hear it now.

"he was weak from giving blood" "the test affected him mentaly" "he was scared of needles" etc

no clowns, that fool will have gotten outclassed. and was never on mays level

[mazdaru]

I guess in talking money you are right, but legacy wise this whole situation was severely detrimental to Manny Pacquaios side more than Floyd Mayweathers. to many Pacquiao supporters it has been deemed an excuse to get out of the fight. But in history it will looked at in the chronological form that it happened which is Pacquiao turned down the drug tests.

This is not to say his legacy is tarnished by any means necessary, he will go down as a boxing great if he does or does not fight Mayweather. but there will always be that lingering question or thought that he may have accomplished such goals with the help of PED or Steroids.

I feel if he took the tests (given he has nothing to hide), Mayweather still wouldve found a way to get out of the fight by different means. Mayweather was swinging for the fences with that demand and it worked.

talk about swinging for the fences, have you read the bolded part?


haha you dudes are such clowns. the same way yall said he would look to get out of a fight with shane? when has floyd ever pulled out of a fight?

you fools are simply dumbasses, its absolutely pathetic the way yall think. cant help but laugh at you fools bwahaha

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I guess in talking money you are right, but legacy wise this whole situation was severely detrimental to Manny Pacquaios side more than Floyd Mayweathers. to many Pacquiao supporters it has been deemed an excuse to get out of the fight. But in history it will looked at in the chronological form that it happened which is Pacquiao turned down the drug tests.

This is not to say his legacy is tarnished by any means necessary, he will go down as a boxing great if he does or does not fight Mayweather. but there will always be that lingering question or thought that he may have accomplished such goals with the help of PED or Steroids.

I feel if he took the tests (given he has nothing to hide), Mayweather still wouldve found a way to get out of the fight by different means. Mayweather was swinging for the fences with that demand and it worked.

Figs, we both know that he could have retired after the Hatton fight and would still give Floyd a sizable task in catching up...legacy wise, his is already sealed


decades from now, when the casual fan researches both fighters, they will see one that tried to fight everyone...and another that didn't


just step back for a moment and look at things in perspective;


no demands, fight gets made

no xylocaine, filled up Texas stadium...statement to the rest of the sports world, not just MMA, that boxing is king when it wants to be



PBF let a 'hunch' kill a fight...PAC is also a diva during negotiations and he didn't want to get bullied by his demands


they are both at fault but as boxingscene's own Cliff Rold said 'Floyd created an unecessary road block'

[-MAKAVELLI-]

no clowns, that fool will have gotten outclassed. and was never on mays level

too bad Floyd doesn't believe that and let barbershop talk shrivel his nuts

[fightingfigs]

Kid, I looked at your previous posts and I've seen that you're really butt hurt on what happened with your favorite boxer. I chose to debate you because you're full of ****. You posted things that flame a certain group of fans while huthuggin' a certain fighter.

I'm also a Cotto fan but I accepted the fact the he lost to a great fighter. You just became a Mayweather fan because of what happened with your favorite fighter. You need to move on and STFU.

You are the epitome of butthurt in this discussion, instead of rasing points like you normally should you go for broke and attack the poster personally by claiming he i a child or any other nonsensical claims. I am a fan of many fighters but Floyd Mayweather isnt one by FAAAAAAAAAAAR. Sure I have protected in this situation due to the fact I feel his stance has credible benefits yet I do not like his style nor his persona and I personally feel every fight he has been in with the exception of castillo has been allhype no bite.

So stick to what you know best "hating" do me a favor dont "try" to debate me cause you never tried from the start,and in my opinion you cant hang if thats what you consider trying. Peace lame

[jrosales13]

I guess in talking money you are right, but legacy wise this whole situation was severely detrimental to Manny Pacquaios side more than Floyd Mayweathers. to many Pacquiao supporters it has been deemed an excuse to get out of the fight. But in history it will looked at in the chronological form that it happened which is Pacquiao turned down the drug tests.

This is not to say his legacy is tarnished by any means necessary, he will go down as a boxing great if he does or does not fight Mayweather. but there will always be that lingering question or thought that he may have accomplished such goals with the help of PED or Steroids.

I feel if he took the tests (given he has nothing to hide), Mayweather still wouldve found a way to get out of the fight by different means. Mayweather was swinging for the fences with that demand and it worked.

I disagree cuz Sugar Ray Leonard refused to take a steroid test. And, nobody questions about him if accomplished anything by using illegal substance... Nobody questions on why he turned down a steroid for the Hearns fight. At the end honestly it might be wrong but nobody cares.

Holyfield with the whole "Evan Fields" fiasco does not get questioned if his whole career was by using illegal substance. He still ranks amongst the ATG and a lot of experts still put him in the top 10 all time greatest HWs...

Toney and Jones really legacy wise do not get question. I mean Roy Jones was a freak of nature and he took illegal substance and nobody questions him... Because, at the end fo the day really nobody cares...

Like I said if Pac was not a threat to Floyd this would have not even been a big subject. Years from now nobody is going to look back at this and say why didn't he take. They not going to care. It might be wrong but that is the truth.