No matter what any of you *******s say...

[project xxx1]

In the end, Pacquiao refused to take the strictest drug test.

That does'nt sound right.

they are both to blame,manny could of agreed to a 14 day cut off period and the fight would of happened or floyd could of agreed to a 24 day cut off period and the fight would of happened,no one is scared of each other and the fight will happen,march was too soon and they will fight at the end of the year,think about it,manny is fighting clottey(good fighter)floyd is fighting mosley (good fighter) but still everyone is talking about floyd vs manny,its all to hype up the fight which will break alot of records

[jrosales13]

you *******s are ******ed. can waait to see yalls excuses when pac gives into test, gets in the ring and gets his ass handed to him

i can hear it now.

"he was weak from giving blood" "the test affected him mentaly" "he was scared of needles" etc

no clowns, that fool will have gotten outclassed. and was never on mays level

Just like how if Pac takes all the testing and destroys Floyd... I can wait to hear your excuse...

I can hear it now...

Pacquiao is on some untracable ****... Fucking clown...

[Dehydrator]

You are the epitome of butthurt in this discussion, instead of rasing points like you normally should you go for broke and attack the poster personally by claiming he i a child or any other nonsensical claims. I am a fan of many fighters but Floyd Mayweather isnt one by FAAAAAAAAAAAR. Sure I have protected in this situation due to the fact I feel his stance has credible benefits yet I do not like his style nor his persona and I personally feel every fight he has been in with the exception of castillo has been allhype no bite.

So stick to what you know best "hating" do me a favor dont "try" to debate me cause you never tried from the start,and in my opinion you cant hang if thats what you consider trying. Peace lame

Truth hurts and please don't get mad I'm just pointing a fact. Move on with your life and it might do you good.

Peace

[fightingfigs]

talk about swinging for the fences, have you read the bolded part?


haha you dudes are such clowns. the same way yall said he would look to get out of a fight with shane? when has floyd ever pulled out of a fight?

you fools are simply dumbasses, its absolutely pathetic the way yall think. cant help but laugh at you fools bwahaha

Look at this from a bigger point of view.

In order for Mayweather to be taken seriously anymore after negotiations with Pacquiao failed he was FORCED to fight Shane.

I still give him credit htough, he had different option but he did choose the right one. And if you look at the differences between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. You definitely can see which would be the easier of the two opponents which is why he chose Shane.

Dont get me worng like I said I give him credit still, cause Shane even at 50 I feel will always pose a much larger threat than a blown up marquez and hatton. Manny Pacquiao proved that with Hatton

[Dehydrator]

they are both to blame,manny could of agreed to a 14 day cut off period and the fight would of happened or floyd could of agreed to a 24 day cut off period and the fight would of happened,no one is scared of each other and the fight will happen,march was too soon and they will fight at the end of the year,think about it,manny is fighting clottey(good fighter)floyd is fighting mosley (good fighter) but still everyone is talking about floyd vs manny,its all to hype up the fight which will break alot of records

This what we need on this forum sensible post. Good post, I owe you a green.

[fightingfigs]

I disagree cuz Sugar Ray Leonard refused to take a steroid test. And, nobody questions about him if accomplished anything by using illegal substance... Nobody questions on why he turned down a steroid for the Hearns fight. At the end honestly it might be wrong but nobody cares.

Holyfield with the whole "Evan Fields" fiasco does not get questioned if his whole career was by using illegal substance. He still ranks amongst the ATG and a lot of experts still put him in the top 10 all time greatest HWs...

Toney and Jones really legacy wise do not get question. I mean Roy Jones was a freak of nature and he took illegal substance and nobody questions him... Because, at the end fo the day really nobody cares...

Like I said if Pac was not a threat to Floyd this would have not even been a big subject. Years from now nobody is going to look back at this and say why didn't he take. They not going to care. It might be wrong but that is the truth.

You are right but in the light of where steroids have been recently IE in supreme court. It is now a black eye to be even associated with. 70s 80s and even 90s people never knew the extent or capabilties. They were more concerned with loaded gloves or anything panama lewis would put in his bottles.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Look at this from a bigger point of view.

In order for Mayweather to be taken seriously anymore after negotiations with Pacquiao failed he was FORCED to fight Shane.

I still give him credit htough, he had different option but he did choose the right one. And if you look at the differences between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. You definitely can see which would be the easier of the two opponents which is why he chose Shane.

Dont get me worng like I said I give him credit still, cause Shane even at 50 I feel will always pose a much larger threat than a blown up marquez and hatton. Manny Pacquiao proved that with Hatton

actually, HBO probably laughed at his ass when they started mentioning Matthew Hatton and Nate Campbell


it took a tragic natural disaster in Haiti to make Shane available...maybe it was god's way of telling Floyd to 'man up'

[mazdaru]

I disagree cuz Sugar Ray Leonard refused to take a steroid test. And, nobody questions about him if accomplished anything by using illegal substance... Nobody questions on why he turned down a steroid for the Hearns fight. At the end honestly it might be wrong but nobody cares.

Holyfield with the whole "Evan Fields" fiasco does not get questioned if his whole career was by using illegal substance. He still ranks amongst the ATG and a lot of experts still put him in the top 10 all time greatest HWs...

Toney and Jones really legacy wise do not get question. I mean Roy Jones was a freak of nature and he took illegal substance and nobody questions him... Because, at the end fo the day really nobody cares...

Like I said if Pac was not a threat to Floyd this would have not even been a big subject. Years from now nobody is going to look back at this and say why didn't he take. They not going to care. It might be wrong but that is the truth.

well this is a new era in sports where cheating is common and its doesnt go over looked either. people who cheat these days are hurt by it and this **** hangs over their name for the rest of their lives.

so you faill for bringing up the past like its the same now as it was then. ITS NOT

[jrosales13]

well this is a new era in sports where cheating is common and its doesnt go over looked either. people who cheat these days are hurt by it and this **** hangs over their name for the rest of their lives.

so you faill for bringing up the past like its the same now as it was then. ITS NOT

Cheating was common back then. WTF are you talking about? If it wasn't then how did I started naming cheaters who got busted from back then? I just named the ATG ones... I could keep going too and name the one who were not ATG's and not even HOF'ers... And, plus when do you think the steroid era in football? Or the steroid era in baseball was? What about in the Olympics? PED's have been a major problem in sports for decades now... And, those ATG boxers legacy did not get hurt in any way... So explain to me how is it not the same?

You ******y has no bounds... If steroid wasn't a problem back then... Then why did Thomas Hearns ask Ray Leonard to take a steroid test?

[mazdaru]

Look at this from a bigger point of view.

In order for Mayweather to be taken seriously anymore after negotiations with Pacquiao failed he was FORCED to fight Shane.

I still give him credit htough, he had different option but he did choose the right one. And if you look at the differences between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. You definitely can see which would be the easier of the two opponents which is why he chose Shane.

Dont get me worng like I said I give him credit still, cause Shane even at 50 I feel will always pose a much larger threat than a blown up marquez and hatton. Manny Pacquiao proved that with Hatton

you can believe that if you want. floyd can fight anyone he wants. he didnt have to fight shane if he didnt want to. fact of the matter is that, now that shane and floyd are fighting....pacs back is against the wall.

the fact that shane accpeted drug testing makes Pac look worse. hence why Floyds fight is totally over shadowing pacs.

the pressure is now on pac not floyd. and if they come back to the negotiating table. Floyd will have the upper hand, not Pac. watch and see. i bet there wont be a 50/50 split. Pac will have to adhere to testing.

just watch. arum and them rolled the dice thinking that their plan was going to pin floyds back to the wall and iit backfired...royally