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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #21
    Originally posted by Runw/knives
    There are some good European fighters. The Klitschko Brothers are the best heavyweights IMO.....Mikkel Kessler is a very good underrated supermiddleweight, who I think is the second best in the division. Jean Marc Mormeck is a very good cruiserweight...and might be the best in his division.

    But as a whole, run of the mill European fighters to not hold a candle to fighters from the States in terms of talent and opposition faced.
    No, Mormeck IS the best in the division, not might be. Kessler isn't underrated, IMO he isn't rated at all. He hasn't really fought anybody yet to be judged accurately. Atleast one of the Klitschko's is the best heavyweights. I'm not sure about the other one.

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    • Run
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      #22
      Originally posted by asian_sensation
      No, Mormeck IS the best in the division, not might be.
      Might be. He has never Faced Oneil Bell as far as I am concerned. That would a dangerous matchup for him because of his tenacity and hanspeed.



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      • pinaldino
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        #23
        Originally posted by asian_sensation
        I have in the past been accused of being anti-European, despite the fact I am half Italian-Irish-Scottish-German, so I want the European guys here to tell me whats really good.
        I recently read that Nicolay Valuev KO'ed Clifford Ettienne in the 3rd round, Woah! The man is 41-0 (31 KO), but largely against non-descript opposition. Why aren't they matched tougher? If an American heavyweight goes 41-0 against Valuev's opposition, they would probably revoke his license for making the Athletic Commisions sick, unless they are from Tennessee.
        How about this Mahyar Monshipour character? He is 27-2-2 (18 KO), holds the WBA 122 Lb. strap, yet I have never heard of any of the guys he's fought. Why? Because he doesn't fight good opposition.
        You tell me if I am prejudice or if I have a point.


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        Oh yeah, Brian Nielsen!
        .JM Mormeck is probably the best cruiser..Tiozzo used to be excellent and is still a very good figther, although obviously over the hill
        Mahyar Monshipour grabed the WBA belt less than 2 years ago, and ko'd medjkoune (former champ) twice, then the mandatory challengers.
        He's not a cutie but constantly improving (he started boxing at 19 I believe) and he's a seek and destroy fighter, going very hard to the body and throwing tons of punches. I can tell u he's very exciting to watch and a very solid champ. Let's hope he can reunify with Larios later this year.

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #24
          Originally posted by pinaldino
          .JM Mormeck is probably the best cruiser..Tiozzo used to be excellent and is still a very good figther, although obviously over the hill
          Mahyar Monshipour grabed the WBA belt less than 2 years ago, and ko'd medjkoune (former champ) twice, then the mandatory challengers.
          He's not a cutie but constantly improving (he started boxing at 19 I believe) and he's a seek and destroy fighter, going very hard to the body and throwing tons of punches. I can tell u he's very exciting to watch and a very solid champ. Let's hope he can reunify with Larios later this year.
          Monshipour ain't leaving France, believe me. Mormeck is the best at Cruiserweight, can't no one there beat him. Tiozzo, didn't he get blown away in the first by Virgil "Over the" Hill?

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            #25
            Originally posted by triggerhappy
            Nicolay Valuev is 7'0 tall that is the tallest boxer i ever seen. is he any good
            Not very skilled, but potentially dangerous due to his size. I don't imagine anyone without something to prove would fight him unless he became a mandatory. He'd be a good opponent for a guy like Jameel McCLine, who wants to keep his name among the top contenders after a few stumbles.

            Someone like Chris Byrd would beat him 120-108.

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            • Neuraxis
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              #26
              Originally posted by asian_sensation
              Kessler isn't underrated, IMO he isn't rated at all. He hasn't really fought anybody yet to be judged accurately.
              How can you rate anyone then when Kessler completely owned Siaca who had previously beat up on Mundine who is recogized as a top 6 SMW by every ranking I've seen. If you are going to say that Kessler hasn't beaten anyone, then the other young SMW champ, Lacy has beaten no one either. Its hard to judge the SMW champs unless they fight each other because the division is so below average.

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              • The Pretender
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                #27
                My analysis yields that euro fighters take too many breaks for tea and crumpets. Thats why US fighters better.

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                • paul750
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Pretender
                  My analysis yields that euro fighters take too many breaks for tea and crumpets. Thats why US fighters better.
                  come on pretenter, thats very sterotypical

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                  • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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                    #29
                    thats cus they can make hella money fighting less-tough opposition in Europe already. They dont have a need to risk it all by coming to the tougher competition.

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                    • The Pretender
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                      thats cus they can make hella money fighting less-tough opposition in Europe already. They dont have a need to risk it all by coming to the tougher competition.
                      How come byrd afraid to fight wlad in germany? He scared thats why.

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