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    #11
    Originally posted by asian_sensation
    Joe Calzaghe, ain't that the guy who's been fighting Mario Veit and Kabary Salem? I almost forgot to say he sucks as well. Lets see him fight in America and then we'll talk.
    Haha yeah. Everyone is getting frisky over his spotless record. And spotless....because he has faced nothing but bums. This goes back to the discussion of him V.S. Lacy. One opponent that Calzaghe faced was Robin Reid. Many people on this forum are claiming he is going to beat Lacy. Reid has never been knocked out. Lacy is going to knock him out, and show people why Calzaghe is extremely overrated as a fighter. LOL.

    Reid would not make it past 5, Calzone would not make it past 2.



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      #12
      Originally posted by asian_sensation
      Not many good euro fighters. Period.
      Apparently you've been staying away from 168 lbs and up recently.

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        #13
        Originally posted by SacTown1
        the term "challenged" is thrown around quite a bit these days, and it carries very little value... in all seriousness, Joe's management team would have never struck a deal with Jones, because European promoters always try to get options on American opponents when they sign fight contracts, and Roy's not going to give any promoter any options, especially if they are challenging for his belts....if Calzaghe's team really wanted a Jones fight, then Joe would have dumped his WBogus belt, fought an eliminator at 175, won, and been installed as the #1 contender, which would have GUARANTEED him a fight with RJJ (to the credit of Clinton Woods' team, this is exactly what they did to get their man a shot at Jones, Tarver's team did the same thing as well)....so the verbal "challenges" that team Calzaghe threw out thru the British tabloid media aren't really credible
        Calzaghe can fight an eliminator for the number one contender to jerk me off.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Neuraxis
          Apparently you've been staying away from 168 lbs and up recently.
          Brian Nielsen.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Runw/knives
            Haha yeah. Everyone is getting frisky over his spotless record. And spotless....because he has faced nothing but bums. This goes back to the discussion of him V.S. Lacy. One opponent that Calzaghe faced was Robin Reid. Many people on this forum are claiming he is going to beat Lacy. Reid has never been knocked out. Lacy is going to knock him out, and show people why Calzaghe is extremely overrated as a fighter. LOL.

            Reid would not make it past 5, Calzone would not make it past 2.
            quit stealin my Joey Calzone jokes!!!

            great points though, I think Lacy will be the 1st to KO Reid as well (and in all fairness, Lacy is kinda-sorta doing what many European fighters have done, which is fight a re-tread has-been from overseas in order to drop a challenge on another fighter from that region)

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              #16
              Originally posted by asian_sensation
              Calzaghe can fight an eliminator for the number one contender to jerk me off.
              I get sloppy seconds

              but you see my point though? Calzone was really one elimination fight away from fighting Jones, but his people never really wanted the fight, so they held onto their precious WBogus belt instead

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                #17
                Originally posted by asian_sensation
                Brian Nielsen.
                Yeah at 168 lbs. and up Europe holds 10 belts and the U.S. holds 5.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Neuraxis
                  Yeah at 168 lbs. and up Europe holds 10 belts and the U.S. holds 5.
                  Robin Reid, Joe Calzaghe, Fabrice Tiozzo, Michaelzcewski, Beyer all them mutha****as can hold my ****.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Neuraxis
                    Yeah at 168 lbs. and up Europe holds 10 belts and the U.S. holds 5.
                    Technically you're right, but there are only 3 meaningful belts above 168 right now, and they are held by Glen Johnson, JM Mormeck, and Vitali, who all fight in the US, so in all actuality the championships are the property of the US and the American promoters, not so much the actual fighters

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                      #20
                      All in All

                      There are some good European fighters. The Klitschko Brothers are the best heavyweights IMO.....Mikkel Kessler is a very good underrated supermiddleweight, who I think is the second best in the division. Jean Marc Mormeck is a very good cruiserweight...and might be the best in his division.

                      But as a whole, run of the mill European fighters to not hold a candle to fighters from the States in terms of talent and opposition faced.



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