MURAD MUHAMMAD: I kept Pac away from African American fighters..

[M.I.C.]

Can it be said that Floyd has never faced a slick AA either?

Ofcourse,

BUT then who will you say that is a slick AA for him to face?

Exactly. There weren't any to my memory or atleast that good.

Yes he has, all I got to say is go out and purchase his career set on DVD. Has he ever faced a boxer as slick as himself, NO, and if you know of one do tell.

[PensionKiller]

but he could of went up in weight then and fought him and beat his conqueror's conqueror. Instead he chose to fight Morales in a revenge fight after losing to Raheem....which is weak!

Who does not want to avenge loses?

Floyd fought Judah after losing to Baldomir. Judah was still a good fighter and so was Morales

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Can it be said that Floyd has never faced a slick AA either?

Ofcourse,

BUT then who will you say that is a slick AA for him to face?

Exactly. There weren't any to my memory or atleast that good.

This means nothing. People bring up slick fighters for Pac because everyone believes he will lose to one.

No one on this board thinks Floyd will be outboxed for 12 rounds.

Most say he will lose to pressure fighters. Guess what hes fought PLENTY.

[Left Banned Tua]

Johnson, Grisby, Jones, Austin, would have interesting to watch.


Another thing Arum was also Gainers promoter. He couldve made that fight. But chose not to.

gainer was done by 2003.

pacquiao didn't move to arum 'til 2006.

tim austin was at 118 at the time pac was at 122-126. maybe tim could have moved up. i doubt pac could move down to 118.

when could have pac fought mark johnson? at flyweight? 115? pac was at 122 by the time he started fighting in america.

junior jones last fight was at 130 and it was a year before pac even had moved up to 126 let alone 130.

[letsgobrady]

Cotto and Marg were atleast the same money as Hatton. Hatton did not have an PPV in the US and was not that famous in the US.

Cotto and Marg would have done more sales IMO.

Then his excuse is that they don't have a following.

Personally, I think he would have beaten both, but they were very dangerous. Marg had a solid chin and would not respect Floyd's punches and hit Floyd, but lsot to a wide UD.

Cotto just dealt with Judah and Mosely, and was a scary fighter at anyone at 147 IMO. He had enough of everything to give Floyd the biggest trouble at 147.

Floyd chose to negotiate a fight with Oscar again after beating Oscar in one of the most boring fights for such a huge event.

That's why I said I believe Arum on this. I have seen Floyd not fight the ebst WW's until now. I just hope Mosely does not break up.



I already stated that he talked for Pac but not for with Cotto and Marg, he chose to retire and not fight Oscar again.

That being said, how would he kow how it would go? Or he wouldn't waste his time trying to make the fight.

It can be said #if Pac accepted the tests there would be a fight, but if Floyd di not demand them, then there would also be a fight.

when would have margarito-floyd outsell hattton floyd?after margarito beat cotto? because before that no on gave a **** about margarito and by the time he beat cotto floyd was retired and the in margarito's next fight he got caught with loaded gloves.floyd tried to get a fight with cotto at 140 arum said no

[M.I.C.]

Johnson, Grisby, Jones, Austin, would have interesting to watch.


Another thing Arum was also Gainers promoter. He couldve made that fight. But chose not to.

Truth be told, Smoke probably would of whooped Pac's azz back then...yeah I know about smoke's fight with Marquez, its sitting on my dresser actually with Floyd-N'dou, but again, that was vs Marquez. Pac didn't look so hot against JMM either.

And how would Pac deal with a tall, quick, straight punching southpaw? Now if it became a matter of heart, I would say Pac wins, but I wouldn't go on a limb and say Pac beats a prime Smoke at 126.

[jrosales13]

Johnson, Grisby, Jones, Austin, would have interesting to watch.


Another thing Arum was also Gainers promoter. He couldve made that fight. But chose not to.

You not looking at the time frame at all... Junior Jones and Pac were never in the same weight-class... Pac was never in the same weight-class with Austing... They probably after Austin fell off but again he was not legitimite opponent... Pacquiao was never a ligitimate opponent for too sharp... So that fight could of never happened. And, by the time Pac won the lineal title and became a legitimate opponent for Johnson. Too Sharp was already out of the weight-class... Will Grigsby was another... He was not a legitimate opponet... And, when Pac the lineal title Grigsby was not in his weight-class... I guess you can really reach out, I mean really reach and say that skipped not one weight-class but two weight-classes to avoid Johnson and Austin... But, that is really reaching... And, Gainer was not a legitimate opponent by the time Pac got to 126...

[letsgobrady]

but he could of went up in weight then and fought him and beat his conqueror's conqueror. Instead he chose to fight Morales in a revenge fight after losing to Raheem....which is weak!

manny should of did what floyd did wit zab and baldomir fight them both

[cortdawg25]

Cotto and Marg were atleast the same money as Hatton. Hatton did not have an PPV in the US and was not that famous in the US.

Cotto and Marg would have done more sales IMO.

Then his excuse is that they don't have a following.

Personally, I think he would have beaten both, but they were very dangerous. Marg had a solid chin and would not respect Floyd's punches and hit Floyd, but lsot to a wide UD.

Cotto just dealt with Judah and Mosely, and was a scary fighter at anyone at 147 IMO. He had enough of everything to give Floyd the biggest trouble at 147.

Floyd chose to negotiate a fight with Oscar again after beating Oscar in one of the most boring fights for such a huge event.

That's why I said I believe Arum on this. I have seen Floyd not fight the ebst WW's until now. I just hope Mosely does not break up.



I already stated that he talked for Pac but not for with Cotto and Marg, he chose to retire and not fight Oscar again.

That being said, how would he kow how it would go? Or he wouldn't waste his time trying to make the fight.

It can be said #if Pac accepted the tests there would be a fight, but if Floyd di not demand them, then there would also be a fight.

cotto didn't fight Judah until after the 1st oscar fight and then they were negotiating for a 2nd fight like u stated so cotto wasn't a option to be avoided. Cotto then decided to move onto to Mosley and was scheduled to fight him in Nov. Hatton then got the fight floyd in Dec. After that, floyd should have fought him though.


Maragarito was a nobody and still was nobody unitl he defeated cotto and floyd was well into retirement by then.

[PensionKiller]

Yes he has, all I got to say is go out and purchase his career set on DVD. Has he ever faced a boxer as slick as himself, NO, and if you know of one do tell.

I might have to do that then. I will admit I don't know who he has fought that were good and slick.

My bad.

This means nothing. People bring up slick fighters for Pac because everyone believes he will lose to one.

No one on this board thinks Floyd will be outboxed for 12 rounds.

Most say he will lose to pressure fighters. Guess what hes fought PLENTY.

I agree that is true. Pac can be outboxed.

The way to beat Floyd is pressure ofcourse, but you need more than that. You need to have atleast equal physical ability.

Someone like Castillo was close. Floyd hasn't fought someone at WW that had it in them to beat him.

It is also the case that Pressure fighters who do not bring smart pressure easily look bad.

Floyd has quick legs and you need to match him going forward as he goes lateral or backwards. Baldomir just did not have it.