MURAD MUHAMMAD: I kept Pac away from African American fighters..

[jrosales13]

given what I've seen and heard from him and his camp thru all of this mess, I'd honestly say yes. I've said this countless times, I love Pac. I've been a fan of his for years!
I've watched a number of his fights (b4 Oscar). To me, personally b4 any of this stuff came up. The Diaz fight showed a different Pac (I know Diaz was a paper tiger) but pac was different in that fight. Not so much his style but how he just KEPT GOING AND GOING. Pac can go I'll admit, bu. This was different. I rooted ans cheered for pac, was impressed and proud when he kod Diaz. but as he kept moving up, same style, bigger, stronger, faster, twice the wind (stam), ripped no water weight? It just really odd.

Then ad in all the mess and I'm SURE uv seen all the bs and the lying his camp has done on testing (keep it 1000!). Now typical pac was 6 hard rounds, then he tapers off but still has bounce. Now this guy aint normal. Plus he won't test to clear it up?
if my life was on the line and I HAD to choose? I'd have to lean towards not 100% clean.

Oh, Raheem was rite there for Pac.

You didn't give me no facts, you just gave me assumptions... Good job...

And, Raheem was never in Pac weight-class. By the time they were in the same weight-class Raheem was working for Costco...

[cixthree]

You didn't give me no facts, you just gave me assumptions... Good job...

And, Raheem was never in Pac weight-class. By the time they were in the same weight-class Raheem was working for Costco...

a fact? Its fact that I've be watching pac over the years and recently he has changed (snap of my finger). Its also a fact that Manny is ok with giving
3 "scheduled" blood and urine samples. Its also a fact that Freddy is on video lying about offering 14 days. Its also a fact texas has NO DRUG TEST hmm.
Oh wait! You wanna say Raheem wasn't in his div? Hed just out boxed the guy who outboxe him (1 div up is too much for the Mighty pac?) pac ducked raheem, even the announcers advised pac to avoid him And he did.

Since pac is clean, which excuse for not testing do you stand by? I know there are many, but which one did you buy?

[jrosales13]

a fact? Its fact that I've be watching pac over the years and recently he has changed (snap of my finger). Its also a fact that Manny is ok with giving
3 "scheduled" blood and urine samples. Its also a fact that Freddy is on video lying about offering 14 days. Its also a fact texas has NO DRUG TEST hmm.
Oh wait! You wanna say Raheem wasn't in his div? Hed just out boxed the guy who outboxe him (1 div up is too much for the Mighty pac?) pac ducked raheem, even the announcers advised pac to avoid him And he did.

Since pac is clean, which excuse for not testing do you stand by? I know there are many, but which one did you buy?

I bought the one that he is not on anything that can make bullets bounce off of you...

How long was Pac at 130? And, how fast did he get to 130? And, now you saying he should of went up to 135? Especially when he still had unfinished business at 130?

And, was Muhammad in charge of Pac career at the time? I might be wrong but I don't think he was....

[OnePunch]

Do you even understand the time frame? When Murad Muhammad was handling Pac career. What African American fighters were there to fight in his weight-class?

some people think Pac skipped 118 to avoid Tim Austin. I dont necessarily agree or disagree, but I've heard that said more a few times.......

[jrosales13]

some people think Pac skipped 118 to avoid Tim Austin. I dont necessarily agree or disagree, but I've heard that said more a few times.......

I agree I even mentioned that earler in thread but IMO is reaching because not only did he skip 118 he also skip 115... He skipped two whole divisions to avoid one fighter? That is just crazy to me...

[OnePunch]

I agree I even mentioned that earler in thread but IMO is reaching because not only did he skip 118 he also skip 115... He skipped two whole divisions to avoid one fighter? That is just crazy to me...

Well, the opinion that I have heard was that after having weight issues the plan was to go up to 118. After getting stretched by Singsurat though they went ahead and jumped all the way to 122. Some people think that was to bypass an inevitable fight at 118 with Austin. Others think it's nonsense. Who knows?

[FeFist]

It's funny that people can put 2 and 2 together in this situation. That the ex promoter is behaving like a bitter ex towards Pacquiao.

Yet everything Bob Arum says about Mayweather is the holy gospel for haters.

[cixthree]

I bought the one that he is not on anything that can make bullets bounce off of you...

How long was Pac at 130? And, how fast did he get to 130? And, now you saying he should of went up to 135? Especially when he still had unfinished business at 130?

And, was Muhammad in charge of Pac career at the time? I might be wrong but I don't think he was....

U can't be serious! Using what Sr and Roger says as a line of defense? Why not take why the experts are saying about testing? I noticed all pac fans avoid th experts info. U call an expert an idiot because they don't agree with 3 scheduled samples and then then they say why and u still don't get it.

Time frame? Fast? Dude we are talking about pac! I see ur just full of excuses so I'm cool with agreeing to disagree

[PureBoxer]

Interesting, so even former members of Team Pacquiao admit he's ducking certain type of opponents. He got a "taste" of slickness vs JM Marquez and it left him with a sore mouth, he then decided to stay clear of Mayweather Jr., and created silly excuses to cancel the fight that all his fans wanted.

[PureBoxer]

It's funny that people can put 2 and 2 together in this situation. That the ex promoter is behaving like a bitter ex towards Pacquiao.

Yet everything Bob Arum says about Mayweather is the holy gospel for haters.

Great point! Arum was exposed as a liar by a former Federal Judge.