Victor Ortiz Stream

[mangler jr]

I take it Ortiz didn't look that good tonight?

[Siggy]

madiana threw none stop bombs and didn't go to sleep? he made ortiz go to sleep matter fact. you can throw bombs without abandoning your D. nate will stay on the out side early and throw his bombs from there. and then later on he will smother the tired ortiz.

becuz ortiz sat and traded. if you didnt notice, victor's working on his countering and boxing skills...and looking good doing that i might add.

i doubt we see him trying to fight like a mindless caveman ever again.

[Siggy]

I take it Ortiz didn't look that good tonight?

depends who you ask. people who just wanted the "vicious" victor ortiz and go for broke style were less impressed

[Heru]

yep, we found out that if he fights a ****** fight then it a good chance he loses.
he's trying to correct that, work on his patience and improve his boxing skills, but then MF's see that and say that he's gun shy.
victor's just rounding into form. he KO's khan and boxes maidana's face in in a re-match.
bradley probably beats him and i'd like to see how valero looks at 140 first before i say who'd have the edge.

I agree with this.

If he learns how to counter punch with good accuracy and timing, he'll have a decent shot at beating the last 2 as well.

[dcopo1]

this is how campell will fight vic early on, look at how he stays on the outside throwing bombs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfPqiC_3CmI

[Heru]

madiana threw none stop bombs and didn't go to sleep? he made ortiz go to sleep matter fact. you can throw bombs without abandoning your D. nate will stay on the out side early and throw his bombs from there. and then later on he will smother the tired ortiz.

How many fighter do you know that can get dropped 3 times in 2 rounds, change tactics, and stay aggressive?

There aren't many, I don't think Campbell is one of them. If Ortiz uses his jab like he did tonight, he will stop Campbell.

[dcopo1]

How many fighter do you know that can get dropped 3 times in 2 rounds, change tactics, and stay aggressive?

There aren't many, I don't think Campbell is one of them. If Ortiz uses his jab like he did tonight, he will stop Campbell.

lets get real here folks. ortiz fought a BUM tonight. the fight was mostly meaningless in my opinion. i wasn't looking for what ortiz did good but how much he has fixed his flaws. and i didn't see much. he was knocked down in the fight 2 times (the first one came from a punch) the 2nd one wasn't from a punch, he was just still a bit dizzy so he fell to a knee. I may have some fooled around here but i am a HARDCORE BOXING FAN and i notice everything. to say that ortiz will beat nate using a jab is LAUGHABLE. in my opinion ortiz fights in spurts and isn't a consistent "jab" fighter. ortiz isn't even a boxer to me. he only fought the way he tried to fight tonight is because he was in there with a guy that didn't throw. as soon as a fighter lands on Ortiz chin, he RUNS back to the cave man style. you didn't notice when the guy knocked ortiz down and hurt him tonight how he went back to his caveman style for the remainder of the round? THATS WHAT ORTIZ DOES WHEN HE GETS HURT. he loses his head. ali funika has a LONG jab thats totally on another level from ortiz's. and it's consistent. and even he couldn't beat campell with his jab. ortiz will have his hands full with campell.

[mangler jr]

Campbell lost to Robbie Peden 2x.

Ortiz should be able to finish him.

[Siggy]

lets get real here folks. ortiz fought a BUM tonight. the fight was mostly meaningless in my opinion. i wasn't looking for what ortiz did good but how much he has fixed his flaws. and i didn't see much. he was knocked down in the fight 2 times (the first one came from a punch) the 2nd one wasn't from a punch, he was just still a bit dizzy so he fell to a knee. I may have some fooled around here but i am a HARDCORE BOXING FAN and i notice everything. to say that ortiz will beat nate using a jab is LAUGHABLE. in my opinion ortiz fights in spurts and isn't a consistent "jab" fighter. ortiz isn't even a boxer to me. he only fought the way he tried to fight tonight is because he was in there with a guy that didn't throw. as soon as a fighter lands on Ortiz chin, he RUNS back to the cave man style. you didn't notice when the guy knocked ortiz down and hurt him tonight how he went back to his caveman style for the remainder of the round? THATS WHAT ORTIZ DOES WHEN HE GETS HURT. he loses his head. ali funika has a LONG jab thats totally on another level from ortiz's. and it's consistent. and even he couldn't beat campell with his jab. ortiz will have his hands full with campell.

kd twice?
you're delusional. one was a combination foot getting stepped on (they were stepping on eachother's feet all fight) and pushed. the other ortiz was ducking a punch and the guy pushed down on the back of the neck. stop making sht up.
you honestly didnt see any difference in terms of poise, ring generalship, footwork and boxing skills compared to what he showed in the maidana fight?
seriously?

i guess you see what you wanna see. you already made up your mind

[dcopo1]

Campbell lost to Robbie Peden 2x.

Ortiz should be able to finish him.

you fools with this boxingrec crap.

styles make fights. and the campell that fought peden was years ago. and i would say nate is a different fighter then what he was then. just like PAC is a different fighter then what he was then.

we will see come fight night.