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What if this was Pacquiao on this Gif??
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Ummmm... He wasn't off balance. It's called a pull back counter. He did it plenty to Ndou without the duck under the right hand.
It's only for orthodox jabs and you have to be expecting one coming. Not sure if a southpaw can do it against southpaws, but and orthodox wouldn't do it to a southpaw.
That wouldn't even be in his repertoire if they fought.
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Originally posted by corpse elf View Posti dont think that manny's combos is gonna do ANYTHING to floyd..i wasnt impressed with manny performance against cotto who just skipping around..and how effective was his combo's against marquez..who i thought beat manny twice.. point is i DONT think manny is that fast either...Sure he has speed but thats only gonna get u so far..His right hand is more effective and that may give floyd something to solve in the later rounds..
When floyd fights he only gives u like half of his body to hit..and when u do hit youre basically hitting his arms..manny isnt that fast..so even when he does swing he's gonna leave himself open and floyd will counter..mayweather leans back alot and i dunno if manny has reach over floyd..even if he does im sure its not by much so it wont be so effective..Now if u disagree that hes fast etc then we'll disagree all night...
Im not convinced of manny's speed and manny leaves him self too damn open for every punch he throws..how fast is marquez?
and how often did u see him tag manny? thats my point..manny's combo's work and LOOK nice against past it sitting ducks..mayweather will move, he wont give manny the time of day to let pac throw the combo's he likes right in front of him [floyd]..
after round 4..I'll be shocked if pacquiao even wins more then 2 or 3 rounds..
Floyd is just so difficult its ****ed up...
Originally posted by 407BoriKua View Postcome on be serious ricky hatton is basically lunging in with his chin first floyd fights nothing like that
Originally posted by QUELOQUE View PostUmmmm... He wasn't off balance. It's called a pull back counter. He did it plenty to Ndou without the duck under the right hand.
It's only for orthodox jabs and you have to be expecting one coming. Not sure if a southpaw can do it against southpaws, but and orthodox wouldn't do it to a southpaw.
That wouldn't even be in his repertoire if they fought.
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Originally posted by corpse elf View Posti dont think that manny's combos is gonna do ANYTHING to floyd..i wasnt impressed with manny performance against cotto who just skipping around..and how effective was his combo's against marquez..who i thought beat manny twice.. point is i DONT think manny is that fast either...Sure he has speed but thats only gonna get u so far..His right hand is more effective and that may give floyd something to solve in the later rounds..
When floyd fights he only gives u like half of his body to hit..and when u do hit youre basically hitting his arms..manny isnt that fast..so even when he does swing he's gonna leave himself open and floyd will counter..mayweather leans back alot and i dunno if manny has reach over floyd..even if he does im sure its not by much so it wont be so effective..Now if u disagree that hes fast etc then we'll disagree all night...
Im not convinced of manny's speed and manny leaves him self too damn open for every punch he throws..how fast is marquez?
and how often did u see him tag manny? thats my point..manny's combo's work and LOOK nice against past it sitting ducks..mayweather will move, he wont give manny the time of day to let pac throw the combo's he likes right in front of him [floyd]..
after round 4..I'll be shocked if pacquiao even wins more then 2 or 3 rounds..
Floyd is just so difficult its ****ed up...
Shut the **** p you ****, Nobody cares what such a biased mother****er posts anyways.
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Originally posted by Mayabang View PostI don't think you're understanding my question at all, lol, no worries.
lol yeah, agreed, Hatton was pretty much a sitting duck with both his arms down (poor Hatton lol)
No, I didn't say he was off balanced, I know he's pulling back to counter. What I was trying to ask is..if Manny did a combo while Floyd does initial pull back to counter, would it cause Floyd to go unblance, since he can't just pull back and stay pulled back the entire time while Pac is doing 4 combo punch. Obviously in that gif Floyd was fine, since Marquez didn't really follow up his iniital punch.
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Originally posted by 407BoriKua View Postthats just ***in amazing
but in general, yes, his reflexes are amazing. it was just even more apparent against a guy that gained 14 lbs or so above his ideal weight classLast edited by Dirt; 02-25-2010, 10:28 PM.
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