Do Mayweather fans have the right to knock Kelly Pavlik's courage?

[Pretty Boy Greg]

I'm just wondering, cuz I know alotta Mayweather fans are Williams fans also, and I have heard much itsh talked about Pavlik ducking this guy and that and fighting tomato cans. Well now Pavlik is essentially mirroring Floyd, and fighting the next best guy at 160 (It is Martinez, let's be clear about that). Let's not argue over who he shoud be fighting. He's fighting the #2 challenger, as far as I'm concerned. So Floyd fans, here's the question. Is Pavlik a scared punk or is he making an effort to take on top opposition ?

martinez is a top level opposition, but all i have to say is that its about damn time he faced someone worth a damn... other than bhop and taylor he has faced no one.. sorry to say but thats the truth...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

A past it De La Hoya.

Undersized, overrated Ricky Hatton.

WAY undersized, past it JMM.

Refused to fight Pacquiao under the same rules every fight in history have used.

But that's not even the point of this thread, and DLH, Hatton and JMM are all bigger names. But there were much better, more challenging fights to be made. Floyd can be criticized too. I just haven't because he's fighting Shane now, and I respect that. Obviously you seem to feel the double standard applies though when it comes to Pavlik taking on Martinez.

Mayweather would beat Rubio, Lockett and Espino damn near to death.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

Floyd stans don't have the right to knock any fighter's courage
and Floyd stans don't like Williams anymore
they hopped off that bandwagon
Williams challenged Floyd, so the Paul nuthugging is dead
Milton's the only one of them who truly rode for Williams

thats not true at all... my favorite two fighters are pwill and may

[MCVAGINA]

I'm a Pavlik fan and I love the Martinez fight, but calling Martinez the second best MW is asinine. Based on a close fight that he lost to a guy that can fight at 147 as well? Sturm, Sylvester, all those Euro guys have a much better claim at being #2 behind Kelly than Martinez or Williams.

Sorry I put my message in the wrong context. What I meant to say was aside from Pavlik, Martinez is the best guy I think for him to fight in the U.S

Sturm and Sylvester are two of the best also but these two fight almost exclusively in Germany. I wish Sturm would go to the states and fight Pavlik but I realise why he doesnt after the way he got robbed against DLH

[dc6112]

It's an insult to Floyd Mayweather to mention him in the same sentence as Kelly Pavlik.

Call Floyd whatever you want, I don't care, but fighting Lockett, getting beat up by a 44year old Hopkins, fighting Rubio, & Espino can't be compared to fighting DLH, Hatton, Marquez and now Mosley. At least Floyd is fighting name opponents who some boxing fans gave them chances to beat Floyd. Pavlik has been fighting no hopers after his Taylor win and even cherrypicked Hopkins thinking he was going to KO him. Martinez is the first fight after Hopkins that fans see it as 50-50. The only fight Floyd was in that almost nobody gave his opponent a chance to win was against Marquez and there were several people thinking Marquez can pull it off.

Like I said, call Floyd whatever you want, it doesn't bother me. But don't try to compare him to Pavlik please that's just crossing the line.

Nobody is comparing Floyd to Pavlik, you need to relax. I was comparing their actions when it comes to taking on opponents in their last few fights. Hatton and Marquez are Floyd's last two opponents. They were both given much less than a 50-50 shot, if I recall. And Pavlik fighting Hopkins was just as much a challenge as Floyd fighting DLH, regardless of results. I am talking about QUESTIONING COURAGE, not comparing the two fighters resumes. Relax.

[norrin]

I don't think you can compare Mayweather with Pavlik. Pavlik is a decent fighter but Hopkins exposed him and I think Sergio will expose him too.

[Rocky!]

thats not true at all... my favorite two fighters are pwill and may

that's why I said Floyd stans, not Floyd fans