How good is Paul Williams? (Serious)

[statosteve]

i dont think he is that good, he just has good physical advantages

agree with u bro

[jrosales13]

Naw Marg won 4 rounds at best.

Fights dont carry over. In the first fight Williams lost. He rematched and beat his ass.

Im not discrediting Martinez. He hasnt won a fight since 2008. It doesnt make him look overrated. Martinez is a fast slick southpaw who 90% of the board thinks beats Pavlik so its clear he can fight. He said Williams has no good wins. I had to remind him that Martinez doesnt.

No P-Will won the first 6 rounds. Margarito won the next 5, P-Will won the last round...

He didn't beat his ass he took him out in 1 round. Again he could of caught him cold. A third fight should of happened...

Well if you reminding him that Martinez doesn't have a good win then you pretty much taking a good win from P-Will. If a fighter does not have not even 1 good win then how is he a top fighter? You could of went a different route and bigging up Martinez as a skilled fighter and a top fighter to show how that was a good win for P-Will...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No P-Will won the first 6 rounds. Margarito won the next 5, P-Will won the last round...

He didn't beat his ass he took him out in 1 round. Again he could of caught him cold. A third fight should of happened...

Well if you reminding him that Martinez doesn't have a good win then you pretty much taking a good win from P-Will. If a fighter does not have not even 1 good win then how is he a top fighter? You could of went a different route and bigging up Martinez as a skilled fighter and a top fighter to show how that was a good win for P-Will...

We'll just have to agree to dissagree. I gotta hit the bed. Im tired as hell...lol. Catch you lata homie.

[Tha_Greatest]

Putting people on ignore is a bitchh move.

anyways, heres how I rate him.

Speed B
Power B-
Defense C+
Ring Generalships B-
Stamina A+
Workrate A+
Chin B+
Heart A


In overall he is a B class fighter with good phisicall gift, great heart and determination. Even with his somewhat limited skills, he will beat a lot of top fighters, but not the elites. And whenever he is faced with a big Puncher is nite nite!!

good idea champ


anyways, heres how I rate him.

Speed B-
Power C
Defense C
Ring Generalships B
Stamina A
Workrate A+
Chin A
Heart C-


tall sorry overated basterd who lost to quintana and got a gift decision by the hbo crew tand hbo by biased commentary to hbos fighter in the U.S against a foreign fighter



basically, these grades come from mostly his sorry performances while having freakish physical advantages

[Ben_London]

good idea champ


anyways, heres how I rate him.

Speed B-
Power C
Defense C
Ring Generalships B
Stamina A
Workrate A+
Chin A
Heart C-


tall sorry overated basterd who lost to quintana and got a gift decision by the hbo crew tand hbo by biased commentary to hbos fighter in the U.S against a foreign fighter



basically, these grades come from mostly his sorry performances while having freakish physical advantages

Max Kellerman scored the fight to Martinez so I don't get your point. Also the ringside judges don't listen to HBO's commentary nor do HBO have an impact on the result. The 117-110 score I think it was, was a total disgrace however.

[Heru]

Pacquiao? Really? To be honest the most die hard of Pac fans havent said that. He has a 9 inch height advantage and a 15 inch reach advantage.

Mosley has a history with tall guys with good jabs and good chins.

Mayweather is one of my faves but he does not let those hand goes enough to beat Paul and he has nothing in his gloves to stop Paul from coming forward.

(Roger Mayweather's voice) "*******s don't know **** about boxing." Pacquiao's foot speed and movement combined with his explosiveness and fast hands would have him boxing circles around Williams.

Paul doesn't have a good jab, he walks in and throws combinations. Believe it or not, he's a southpaw Margarito with faster hands. Shane would employ the same game plan he did against Margarito and he'd win (not nearly as easily though).

I know about Mayweather's punch output. His foot speed and movement alone would take off 200-300 punches off of Williams output. Add clinching to that and it's another 100-200 punches. Now add Paul's lack of defense with his head on a swivel (you can see so clearly when he gets hit clean) and Mayweather's accuracy.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Max Kellerman scored the fight to Martinez so I don't get your point. Also the ringside judges don't listen to HBO's commentary nor do HBO have an impact on the result. The 117-110 score I think it was, was a total disgrace however.

Yeah I dont agree with the wide scorecard but the fight was not a robbery.

[AllEyesOpen]

i dont think he is that good, he just has good physical advantages

only at 147, he's learned that he can't handle the punch of a 154 fighter, I don't think he wants to take on Pavlik at 160.

I know i sound like a hater but i'd be giving him made respect if he was fight at 160 or 154 and outboxing top opponents.

[project xxx1]

At 147 he has damn good shot over everybody.

What I find that is truly crazy, Is that I would pick him over.

Pacquiao, Mayweather and Mosley. The 3 best WW's and the P4P 1,2 and 3.

Thats ****ing nuts.

i like p will and he is a good fighter but hes nothing special imo,i think floyd beats him,depending on what mosley has left id pick him aswell,if manny gets past the long reach then i see manny beating him aswell,personally if margo gets a re-match then id pick him aswell,so like i said good but nothing special

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

only at 147, he's learned that he can't handle the punch of a 154 fighter, I don't think he wants to take on Pavlik at 160.

I know i sound like a hater but i'd be giving him made respect if he was fight at 160 or 154 and outboxing top opponents.

Hes fighting Cintron next and hes the the Number 3 JMW.