How good is Paul Williams? (Serious)

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #81
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    What does Calzaghe have to do with Paul Williams being overrated?
    Stop being a dumbass. Your comment to this thread was so dumb.

    "Hes overrated on the net".


    Who the **** isnt...lol.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #82
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Stop being a dumbass. Your comment to this thread was so dumb.

      "Hes overrated on the net".


      Who the **** isnt...lol.
      I dont know too many boxers who have one significant win yet are touted to be dominant in four divisions.

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      • krispy kreme
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        #83
        I think all three of those guys beat him, although the fight with Pacquiao would be very weird.

        Williams is good, but he is very one dimensional and doesn't know how to use his height. But he has a world of heart, and he is a physically built like a freak.

        I am a bigger fan after he said he just wanted to make sure the fans saw a good fight or something like that, after the Martinez fight. Boxing needs more people with Williams mentality.

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        • B.U.R.N.E.R
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          #84
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          I dont know too many boxers who have one significant win yet are touted to be dominant in four divisions.
          I dont know too many boxers who ARENT overrated on the internet.

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          • project xxx1
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            #85
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Any reasons why you see all 4 of those guys beating him?

            Especially when Manny said Foreman was too tall.

            Mosley said they styles dont match up well.

            Mayweather said hes too big.

            He already beat Margarito...when Marg was in his prime.


            ?????????????
            like i said imo,anyone who is easy to hit and comes foward in striaght lines floyd will take apart even with his advantages,a prime shane is a animal and would hunt down and knock out p will,his speed and the fact he likes to stand and trade would be too much for paul,way to easy to hit for a elite fighter to miss him,then we got manny,with his power and speed he can cause any fighter in the world problems,like i said if he gets past the reach then manny wins,his angles he throughs his punches from combined with his speed and southpaw fighting style would be too much,then we got margo,he did beat margo fair but margo started off very slow and p will built up a good lead,by the end off the fight margo finished off very strong,if there was a re-match then he wouldnt start of so slow,with the pressure he brings i think he wins second time round,i might be wrong but we will have to wait and see,p wills problem is hes a high risk fighter with a low reward,only because of his advantages not because of his skills or power
            Last edited by project xxx1; 02-25-2010, 04:06 PM.

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            • Khalid X
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              #86
              Originally posted by QUELOQUE
              (Roger Mayweather's voice) "*******s don't know **** about boxing." Pacquiao's foot speed and movement combined with his explosiveness and fast hands would have him boxing circles around Williams.

              Paul doesn't have a good jab, he walks in and throws combinations. Believe it or not, he's a southpaw Margarito with faster hands. Shane would employ the same game plan he did against Margarito and he'd win (not nearly as easily though).

              I know about Mayweather's punch output. His foot speed and movement alone would take off 200-300 punches off of Williams output. Add clinching to that and it's another 100-200 punches. Now add Paul's lack of defense with his head on a swivel (you can see so clearly when he gets hit clean) and Mayweather's accuracy.

              Honestly I have said this before and I will say it again. Williams vs Mosley would look just like Ward vs Kessler in which mosley will be tying up Williams, not letting him get off and landing monsterous right Hooks until he eventually knocks him out.

              Williams whole style is getting that 3,4,5 etc punch landed on you and if you disrupt his workrate you can pick him apart. Quintana did it with counter punching and timing...which is exactly what Mayweather or Paquiao would do. Mosley, B-hop and other bigger guys will just tie him up, bully him around and eventually knock him out.

              I'm sorry but Pwilliams has about the worst strategy in boxing in which his whole gamesplan is to go out and throw as many punches as possible. He doesn't use his reach/height, doesn't set up punchies, doesn't sit on punches, it there to be hit all day with left and right hooks and relies on high stamina and workrate to win fights. I mean serously....am I the only guy you sees this and knows he won't beat the very elite fighters with this basic @ss style?

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                #87
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                At 147 he has damn good shot over everybody.

                What I find that is truly crazy, Is that I would pick him over.

                Pacquiao, Mayweather and Mosley. The 3 best WW's and the P4P 1,2 and 3.

                Thats ****ing nuts.
                he aint all that good...but he does have a size advantage over them 3 fighters..

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  Honestly I have said this before and I will say it again. Williams vs Mosley would look just like Ward vs Kessler in which mosley will be tying up Williams, not letting him get off and landing monsterous right Hooks until he eventually knocks him out.

                  Williams whole style is getting that 3,4,5 etc punch landed on you and if you disrupt his workrate you can pick him apart. Quintana did it with counter punching and timing...which is exactly what Mayweather or Paquiao would do. Mosley, B-hop and other bigger guys will just tie him up, bully him around and eventually knock him out.

                  I'm sorry but Pwilliams has about the worst strategy in boxing in which his whole gamesplan is to go out and throw as many punches as possible. He doesn't use his reach/height, doesn't set up punchies, doesn't sit on punches, it there to be hit all day with left and right hooks and relies on high stamina and workrate to win fights. I mean serously....am I the only guy you sees this and knows he won't beat the very elite fighters with this basic @ss style?
                  38-1. Top 10 P4Pounder. Its working for him.

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                  • Kalion
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                    #89
                    Pwill is good and on the verge of breaking into great. His biggest downfall is that his best attributes are his size and work rate.

                    1. He dosent use his size to his advantage as much as he could.
                    2. Work rate is one of the easiest attributes to nullify.

                    If he could develope a solid jab and tighten up his D that would make him alot better. As of now he gets hit to much. I give him a B+/A-

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                    • Mr. Fantastic
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                      Putting people on ignore is a bitchh move.

                      anyways, heres how I rate him.

                      Speed B
                      Power B-
                      Defense C+
                      Ring Generalships B-
                      Stamina A+
                      Workrate A+
                      Chin B+
                      Heart A


                      In overall he is a B class fighter with good phisicall gift, great heart and determination. Even with his somewhat limited skills, he will beat a lot of top fighters, but not the elites. And whenever he is faced with a big Puncher is nite nite!!

                      Ch@mp pretty much nailed it.

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