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  • M.I Truth ?
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    #21
    Originally posted by Bogig
    I say standardize the tests first. Here's what much of the boxing world thinks:


    Joe Goosen, Legendary Boxing Trainer:

    "I just think Pacquiao is a juggernaut right now... and I would just say that maybe that's the reason (Floyd's) throwing up all these smokescreens and roadblocks because he (Floyd) doesn't wanna get in the ring with him (Pac)... (Floyd) should just say yes to the fight, forget all the testing, this guy's (Pac) not on drugs. There's a little air there in all this that's just not right."


    Al Bernstein, Showtime Boxing Analyst:

    “It seems patently obvious to me that Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight. The bottom line is that the fight was basically a done deal before they decided to inject the demands for blood testing into the picture. Pure and simple, Golden Boy and Floyd and his advisers created the problem, and it ended up killing the fight.”


    Dan Rafael from ESPN:

    "Mayweather shouldn't be making accusations without a shred of proof as he tries to discredit all of Pacquiao's great accomplishments, nor should he try to circumvent the Nevada rules by asking for blood tests when the commission has never asked for them."


    Larry Holmes, Heavyweight Champion:

    "I wish I could see Mayweather and Pacquiao fight, but what they're (Floyd's camp) doing right now is hurting boxing because people want to see the fight... They're trying to bring up stuff that is taking away from the fight with drug tests and accusations... I don't get it."


    Thomas Hauser, HBO.com:

    "There were times during the past month when the conduct of Team Mayweather had the look of an effort to sabotage the fight. A negotiator who wants to make a deal doesn’t go out of his way to antagonize and publicly embarrass the other side. But that’s what the Mayweathers and Golden Boy did."


    Jim Strickland, David Diaz's Trainer/retired licensed pharmacist:

    “I don’t see any reason of accusing Manny of using illegal drugs in our fight.”


    Timothy Bradley, WBO/WBC Jr. Welterweight Champion:

    "I don't think Manny is on anything. He's just on top of his game right now."


    James Toney, Multi division Champion:

    "Who is Mayweather to ask for the tests? Why didn’t he ask Marquez? Manny’s not on 'roids."


    Mike Silver, noted Boxing Historian:

    "I think it fell apart because basically Mayweather never wanted to fight Pacquiao. He wants to continue and fight guys he can beat and fool the public.


    Roy Jones, Jr.:

    "Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight."
    Stick to the topic or find another thread homie.

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    • Bogig
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      #22
      Originally posted by Nike Phats
      Yes, because Olympic style blood testing, which thousands of the worlds top athletes have been subject to, is an insane proposition.

      Go on somewhere.
      then get is standardized first in boxing! Floyd doesn't standardize rules. These quotes are from the boxing insiders themselves bro.. so you go on somewhere!

      And who did the Boxing Writers Association pick as their fighter ? You answer that.

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      • Hannibal Barca
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bogig
        Let us not forget that Pac was willing to take blood tests up to a point and unlimited urine testing !

        There is no official and consensus medical proof that shows there's a difference between a 24 day and a 14 day cutoff!

        And what's the difference between blood taken a day before the fight vs. right after the fight ?!!
        Some of you people are severely dense. That or ******ed.

        Urine test can't and don't detect the use of all PED's.

        If you honestly believe there isn't a difference between 14 and 24 days, you aren't very bright. Even 14 days leaves a wide enough window for the usage of PED's.

        Stop while you're ahead.

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          #24
          Originally posted by M.I Truth ?
          Stick to the topic or find another thread homie.
          you just can't handle the truth. these are boxing insider's opinions bro.

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            #25
            Originally posted by M.I Truth ?
            For better or worse. Will people who were for it start to back track if it seems more demanding than they thought? Will those against it say its not a big deal after all if it turns out to be hardly as intrusive as some have made it out to be? Will casuals viewing 24/7 start to question Pac for not agreeing to something so simple or will they see that his concerns were validated? Lets talk about.
            yeah it would...that way people wont call pac a steroid user and he can clear his name...

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              #26
              Originally posted by Nike Phats
              Some of you people are severely dense. That or ******ed.

              Urine test can't and don't detect the use of all PED's.

              If you honestly believe there isn't a difference between 14 and 24 days, you aren't very bright. Even 14 days leaves a wide enough window for the usage of PED's.

              Stop while you're ahead.
              bring up an article to back your claims.. don't pretend that you're an expert and know what you're talking about.

              the last question still stands.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bogig
                then get is standardized first in boxing! Floyd doesn't standardize rules. These quotes are from the boxing insiders themselves bro.. so you go on somewhere!

                And who did the Boxing Writers Association pick as their fighter ? You answer that.
                That's the point genius. Hence the reason he continues to follow through with his drug testing demands even after the fight with Pac collapsed.

                What in the world does that have to do with anything?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by M.I Truth ?
                  For better or worse. Will people who were for it start to back track if it seems more demanding than they thought? Will those against it say its not a big deal after all if it turns out to be hardly as intrusive as some have made it out to be? Will casuals viewing 24/7 start to question Pac for not agreeing to something so simple or will they see that his concerns were validated? Lets talk about.
                  I think you make a good point that the 24/7 will change how a lot of people view it one way or the other. It will also end a lot of false speculation on how it's done when we will actually be able to see for ourselves.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bogig
                    you just can't handle the truth. these are boxing insider's opinions bro.
                    This is not an agenda thread to spam dude. Stick to the topic. You can debate your issues about the testing in another thread.

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                    • Hannibal Barca
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bogig
                      then get is standardized first in boxing! Floyd doesn't standardize rules. These quotes are from the boxing insiders themselves bro.. so you go on somewhere!

                      And who did the Boxing Writers Association pick as their fighter ? You answer that.
                      Originally posted by Bogig
                      bring up an article to back your claims.. don't pretend that you're an expert and know what you're talking about.

                      the last question still stands.
                      If you haven't skimmed through or read the millions of threads based around articles written by peoples with expertise on the usage of PED's, then you're blind. Do a google search, or skim the forums until you find one.

                      It can be masked, or at that time out of his system, something that has been repeated thousands of times around these forums.

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