Who ranks higher ATG, Tyson or Calzaghe?
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And I don't remember Calzaghe losing to mediocre fighters. In fact I don't remember Calzaghe losing. Calzaghe also has a record number of title defenses, and retired on top.i don't remember tyson taking a highly controversial split decision over holmes. or spinks. even though he lost to lewis and holyfield i don't remember him waiting till they were in their 40's and on the slide to fight them. he also had 11 fights in a row against top ten fighters or former champs. much better than only fighting 8 top ten fighters over a 10 year period like calzaghe did as he stalled fighting bums. perhaps that's why tyson is better.
Thanks for at least stating your arguments, unlike some of these idiots.Comment
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I was going to say Mike, but it is closer than people think:
Mikes best wins:
Spinks
Holmes
Tucker
Ruddock
Joes:
Hopkins
Kessler
Eubank
Lacey
Im not sure, Ill let you know when I've made up my mind, lol
EDIT: TysonLast edited by General Zod; 02-23-2010, 12:16 PM.Comment
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Do you agree that Hopkins still had more left when Calzaghe faced him, than Holmes had when Tyson faced him?Comment
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Whats so good about being the youngest hw champion? Clearly he wasnt ready for that kind of fame at that stage of his career. You have to look at it in terms of best wins, not belts accumulatedComment
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Hopkins - Old/fading
Kessler - Overrated
Eubank - Old
Lacy - Just hypeComment
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Tyson's early career was phenomenal . He was the youngest heavyweight champ ever and was totally dominant. He did not just beat fighters up he destroyed them. The overall level of opposition was better and Tyson took on all comers.
Joe's best wins were against old greats. The best win over Hopkins was very tight,many people feel Hopkins won that fight. Jones was past it and was never the same after going up to heavyweight. Kessler was a good win also but that win does not look so good now after the way Ward dealt with him.
I remember the Eubank fight and the build up to it, Eubank took the fight at very short notice and for me that took something from the win. Joe has a great unbeaten record and I consider him an exceptional fighter but I feel even he feels that his fight selection was on the cautious side and he could have taken on more challenging fights in the middle of his career.
Later in his career Tyson was not at his best but he did not duck and behaved like a champion. Looking at the records only tells part of the story,Tyson was great and would have been the GOAT if Cuss had stayed alive I just don't ever see Joe being at that level and feel he sold himself short legacy wise by being over concerned with his unbeaten record and his cautious selection of opponents and timing of fights.
I just feel a prime Mike Tyson was unbeatable or as close as you can get but there were fighters out there that could have beaten a Prime Joe. A young Roy Jones and Hopkins fall into that category.Comment
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