Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Undefeated Record Appreciation Thread

[jrosales13]

i dig what you saying but thats NSB

Fraud this, Fraud that, Steroids this, Steroids that

After the fight *****s will praise Pacquiao if Floyd wins and *******s will praise Floyd if Pacquiao wins

Yea I know... The contradicitons from both sides in this place are just plain ridiculous...

[jrosales13]

Dude are seriously telling me that Im wrong for wanting to watch Pac vs. Floyd? Man like I told Osiris Hell Im pumped for Saul Alvarez vs. Matt Hatton. Im a BOXING fan. Anyone who doesnt want to see Pac vs. Floyd is a joke.

Im a die hard... And, I am saying I never ever wanted to see my favorite fighter, fight against a fighter who had zero chance in beating him... I never ever ever ever wanted to see Tito or Pac fight against fighters who have zero chance in beating them... I am a huge Roman Gonzalez fan and I am not happy with his next opponent or his previous opponent.... Just cuz I don't give them any chance in beating Gonzalez. And, I don't act like they are great wins for him... I just don'e ever want to see a fighter I am a fan of fighting against no hopers.... That is just how I am....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Do you give Pac credit for beating Cotto? Remember Cotto was in the P4P rankings... And, if you answer dishonestly I can go back and bump what you originally answered. If P4P meant **** with Pac-Cotto then P4P means **** for Floyd-Pac...

And, again if fighter A fights fighter B. And, fighter B has zero chance in beating fighter A. Isn't fighter A cherrypicking? If not then what is considered cherrypicking?

No because the fight was at 145 Pounds. Absolutely NOT. ZERO Credit for that win. He handicapped him for no reason. He gets no credit from me for that at all. Same with Floyd and Marquez. Cotto was like 5 or 6 when Pac beat him I believe. But he was also forced to weigh 145 that doesn't sit well with me.

How is it cherrypicking? Find me 100 Posters who feel that Pac has ZERO chance then we can debate it. Since when is my word gold. Im just giving my opinions as a fan of the sport. Pac is the P4P number 1 and the CONSENSUS P4P Number 1 by everybody. Its unanimous. Man some people on here say Floyd shouldne even be in the P4P ranks because he had 21 months off and just fought JMM. They also say he shouldnt be ranked at 147 either. But you will never hear me say to a Pac fan that he gets no credit for beating Mayweather because whether they "think" Floyd is a chicken, coward, pucci, boring etc... I know otherwise and its a great win for both fanbases.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Im a die hard... And, I am saying I never ever wanted to see my favorite fighter, fight against a fighter who had zero chance in beating him... I never ever ever ever wanted to see Tito or Pac fight against fighters who have zero chance in beating them... I am a huge Roman Gonzalez fan and I am not happy with his next opponent or his previous opponent.... Just cuz I don't give them any chance in beating Gonzalez. And, I don't act like they are great wins for him... I just don'e ever want to see a fighter I am a fan of fighting against no hopers.... That is just how I am....

Find me 100 People who think the P4P Number 1 is a "no hoper" then you have a case. Until then hes a Top 5 ATG, Best Lefty ever, Fighter of the Decade, blah blah blah.

My favorite fighter isnt Floyd but Ill play along. I want to see Floyd beat the absolute **** out of him like I know he can. YES. I want to see it. I want Pac to be bloody and crawling around the ring looking for the towel from Roach to come flying in.

I want Floyd to black both of his eyes. Bust his lip. Break his ****ing nose. Just flat out beat the **** out of him and when it is happening I will enjoy every savage minute of it. Just like May 1st.

Do I want to see Floyd vs. Matt Hatton. No not at all. But Im going to go out on a limb and say Pac is a couple light years better then Hatton. I give them BOTH no chance. Thats just how I feel on it. I cant see Pac beating him. Now what does that mean? NOTHING. Because I can make a thread right now asking Does Pac beat Floyd. And the poll wont even be close.

[carts]

did they do random olympic testing?

if they didn't , it's obvious they're on something.

this one LOL 100% ***** buster!!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

this one LOL 100% ***** buster!!

What are your thoughts on Johnson vs. Cloud?

[jrosales13]

No because the fight was at 145 Pounds. Absolutely NOT. ZERO Credit for that win. He handicapped him for no reason. He gets no credit from me for that at all. Same with Floyd and Marquez. Cotto was like 5 or 6 when Pac beat him I believe. But he was also forced to weigh 145 that doesn't sit well with me.

How is it cherrypicking? Find me 100 Posters who feel that Pac has ZERO chance then we can debate it. Since when is my word gold. Im just giving my opinions as a fan of the sport. Pac is the P4P number 1 and the CONSENSUS P4P Number 1 by everybody. Its unanimous. Man some people on here say Floyd shouldne even be in the P4P ranks because he had 21 months off and just fought JMM. They also say he shouldnt be ranked at 147 either. But you will never hear me say to a Pac fan that he gets no credit for beating Mayweather because whether they "think" Floyd is a chicken, coward, pucci, boring etc... I know otherwise and its a great win for both fanbases.

It don't matter at what weight they fought in... You care so much about P4P, but P4P is not a weight-class... He fought at 1lbs less then his last fight and he was ranked high in the P4P list.... If P4P is so important to YOU then you shoudln't care about that ONE POUND.... So again explain if P4P rankings mean so much then what does ONE POUND matter so much to YOU? How does Pac not get ZERO credit for that win? Especially when you predicted Cotto to win? Did you not know that fight was at a catch-weight when you made that prediction? But, again we talking about P4P here right? And, P4P ONE POUND shouold not matter. So how does Pac not get no cerdicted especially after you predicted Cotto to win?

Like I told Left Hook Yuri.... And, to all the Floyd fans who give Pac a chance... Those same posters can give Floyd credit that is fine...

I am talking about you and other Floyd fans on here who give Pac zero chance of winning? How can Floyd fight a fighter who has zero chancce in beating him and yet then act like it is a great win.... Same thing goes for Pac fans. If they feel that Floyd has zero chance of winning then those same posters can not give Pac credit for beating Floyd... You can not have it both ways...

Again if fighter A fights fighter B. And, fighter B has zero chance in winning. Isn't fighter A cherrypicking? If not then what is?

[jrosales13]

Find me 100 People who think the P4P Number 1 is a "no hoper" then you have a case. Until then hes a Top 5 ATG, Best Lefty ever, Fighter of the Decade, blah blah blah.

My favorite fighter isnt Floyd but Ill play along. I want to see Floyd beat the absolute **** out of him like I know he can. YES. I want to see it. I want Pac to be bloody and crawling around the ring looking for the towel from Roach to come flying in.

I want Floyd to black both of his eyes. Bust his lip. Break his ****ing nose. Just flat out beat the **** out of him and when it is happening I will enjoy every savage minute of it. Just like May 1st.

Do I want to see Floyd vs. Matt Hatton. No not at all. But Im going to go out on a limb and say Pac is a couple light years better then Hatton. I give them BOTH no chance. Thats just how I feel on it. I cant see Pac beating him. Now what does that mean? NOTHING. Because I can make a thread right now asking Does Pac beat Floyd. And the poll wont even be close.

There is you, Haterfree, Badnewz, Icheezy, Cyborg, and many others... So what is your point.... There are a lot of Floyd fans who think "the #1 P4P" is a no hoper... Ridiculous I know but that is you and many of the fellow Floyd fans think...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

It don't matter at what weight they fought in... You care so much about P4P, but P4P is not a weight-class... He fought at 1lbs less then his last fight and he was ranked high in the P4P list.... If P4P is so important to YOU then you shoudln't care about that ONE POUND.... So again explain if P4P rankings mean so much then what does ONE POUND matter so much to YOU? How does Pac not get ZERO credit for that win? Especially when you predicted Cotto to win? Did you not know that fight was at a catch-weight when you made that prediction? But, again we talking about P4P here right? And, P4P ONE POUND shouold not matter. So how does Pac not get no cerdicted especially after you predicted Cotto to win?

Like I told Left Hook Yuri.... And, to all the Floyd fans who give Pac a chance... Those same posters can give Floyd credit that is fine...

I am talking about you and other Floyd fans on here who give Pac zero chance of winning? How can Floyd fight a fighter who has zero chancce in beating him and yet then act like it is a great win.... Same thing goes for Pac fans. If they feel that Floyd has zero chance of winning then those same posters can not give Pac credit for beating Floyd... You can not have it both ways...

Again if fighter A fights fighter B. And, fighter B has zero chance in winning. Isn't fighter A cherrypicking? If not then what is?

The thing about the P4P thing with Cotto is this. He had no business being in the Top 10 anyway. He got beat up by Marg, beat Jennings then struggled with Clottey. I dont think he was a Top 10 fighter. Marquez was the P4P Number 2. But do I give Floyd credit? NOPE. Why? Because of the weight. It matters.

Becasue we are fans nothing more, We have opinions. NO I dont think Pac has achance, I dont think Mosley, berto, Clottey, Collazo or any WW has a chance. Its just how it is with me. They dont have a shot in the dark to beat Mayweather. Pac is still the P4P number 1 regardless of what "No Ceilings" thinks.

And again you can't cherry pick a guy like Pac its just blasphemy. Hell even I give him more respect then that.

[Walt Liquor]

I don't have a problem with him... I am cool with him... but, IMO sometimes he talks with his heart and not with his brain... There is no way you can say that Gatti, Castillo, Corrales are locks for the HOF when they are numberous fighters who are more deserving to be in...

I honestly feel that if Floyd would of never fought Gatti, Castillo, and Corrales. He would of not made that silly statement...

Duh. Can u imagine what he'd be saying if they were PAC opponents.