Roach : "WE WILL WIN THAT LAWSUIT"

[jrosales13]

Manny didn't refuse to take steroid testing. He and his team AGREED initially, you know that J Ro. The cut off dates was the biggest hurdle that they backpedaled on, not the actual agreement to do the OST testing.

But, they couldn't agreed on the cutoff date. OK but, he was still willing to go far and beyond of what he is required to. So why should I or anybody else criticize him for that? Leonard straight out refused from the get go said no. Nobody criticized him. And, I understand now is a different eras. But, the steroid problem was still an issue during the major sports in the 80's. You had the Pittsbugh Steelers teams in the 70's who the majority of the players were using steroids. The NFL in the 80's had a problem with steriods. You Canseco being the first baseball player ever to be in the 40/40 club. You had Ben Johnson winning the gold in the Olympics while on steroids. All this was around the same time as Leonard boxing career. Yet Thomas Hearns and Emmanuel Steward wants Leonard to take steroid testing and he straight out refused. Yet nobody criticized him. Pac on the other hand agrees to take just doesn't agree with the cutoff date. But, yet agrees to take blood testing and random urine testing all the way up to the fight. Going far and beyond of what he is required to. And, I should criticize him why exactly?

[IMDAZED]

But, they couldn't agreed on the cutoff date. OK but, he was still willing to go far and beyond of what he is required to. So why should I or anybody else criticize him for that? Leonard straight out refused from the get go said no. Nobody criticized him. And, I understand now is a different eras. But, the steroid problem was still an issue during the major sports in the 80's. You had the Pittsbugh Steelers teams in the 70's who the majority of the players were using steroids. The NFL in the 80's had a problem with steriods. You Canseco being the first baseball player ever to be in the 40/40 club. You had Ben Johnson winning the gold in the Olympics while on steroids. All this was around the same time as Leonard boxing career. Yet Thomas Hearns and Emmanuel Steward wants Leonard to take steroid testing and he straight out refused. Yet nobody criticized him. Pac on the other hand agrees to take just doesn't agree with the cutoff date. But, yet agrees to take blood testing and random urine testing all the way up to the fight. Going far and beyond of what he is required to. And, I should criticize him why exactly?

Because today's drugs call for different testing. Comparing Hearns' time with today is silly. If a fighter wants to dictate when he should be given blood tests then he has completely destroyed the purpose of the testing. It's no different than Leonard flat out refusing urine testing only if he is aware of when. That's why.

[Alibata]

It gets ridiculous with all the Pacquiao fanboys defending him for refusing to take a drug test for $40 million. He should be getting blasted for this, instead his fanboys veermently defend him and somehow claim this is Floyd's fault

It's ridiculous.


Floyd "Pound for pound king" Mayweather

Manny "Catchweight King" Pacquiao

Do Pacquiao fanboys include, boxing writers, boxing historians, most boxers except paulie, hollywood actors, professional athletes, most boxing fans, the island of Pinoys. By haters we do mean *****s only. Floyd fans are delusional, they think everyone is behind them and Floyd when it is quite the contrary only people behind floyd are his groupie followers. They make enough noise to were Floyd doesn't realize everyone is against him,

[BritishBoxing92]

This is for certain. That is why Sr has been quiet nowadays

any links to this??

[charlieg]

Because today's drugs call for different testing. Comparing Hearns' time with today is silly. If a fighter wants to dictate when he should be given blood tests then he has completely destroyed the purpose of the testing. It's no different than Leonard flat out refusing urine testing only if he is aware of when. That's why.

Broken argument.

Urine testing - you gotta piss anyway. Taking blood is something far more invasive and does have physiological consequences. Try giving blood - it knocks you out. Now, of course, we are talking smaller quan****** but it does have some effect and these are men pushing their bodies to the absolute limit.

[Easy-E]

This is for certain. That is why Sr has been quiet nowadays

no, Freddie, you won't.

[Easy-E]

But, they couldn't agreed on the cutoff date. OK but, he was still willing to go far and beyond of what he is required to. So why should I or anybody else criticize him for that? Leonard straight out refused from the get go said no. Nobody criticized him. And, I understand now is a different eras. But, the steroid problem was still an issue during the major sports in the 80's. You had the Pittsbugh Steelers teams in the 70's who the majority of the players were using steroids. The NFL in the 80's had a problem with steriods. You Canseco being the first baseball player ever to be in the 40/40 club. You had Ben Johnson winning the gold in the Olympics while on steroids. All this was around the same time as Leonard boxing career. Yet Thomas Hearns and Emmanuel Steward wants Leonard to take steroid testing and he straight out refused. Yet nobody criticized him. Pac on the other hand agrees to take just doesn't agree with the cutoff date. But, yet agrees to take blood testing and random urine testing all the way up to the fight. Going far and beyond of what he is required to. And, I should criticize him why exactly?

No, he didnt, he wanted a 30 day buffer for blood testing.

[soyotoyapex]

any links to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JouCxMA_s7o

[IMDAZED]

Broken argument.

Urine testing - you gotta piss anyway. Taking blood is something far more invasive and does have physiological consequences. Try giving blood - it knocks you out. Now, of course, we are talking smaller quan****** but it does have some effect and these are men pushing their bodies to the absolute limit.

So? Doesnt this apply for both fighters? What's Pac's excuse?

[V.WEBB]

Because today's drugs call for different testing. Comparing Hearns' time with today is silly. If a fighter wants to dictate when he should be given blood tests then he has completely destroyed the purpose of the testing. It's no different than Leonard flat out refusing urine testing only if he is aware of when. That's why.

That was another thing that didn't sit well with me. That Manny wanted to dictate when he was going to be tested when he agreed to random drug testing. Completely defeats the purpose. Had he flat out refused, that that would have been a little bit different, although I'm sure there would have been alot of criticism for that. But he and his team wasn't duped into the OST testing. They agreed to it, and it didn't just pop up like that people seem to portray on here. In fact Roach went on record about how they would pass any test because Manny is clean.