Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Sparring With Steve Forbes and Beltran

[baracuda]

No, you missed my point. I'm not using the "leftover" argument. Not at all. I never even said that. I'm speaking on the conditions heading into a fight. Those things can not be overlooked. But they tend to get overlooked because people have agendas.

So Floyd beat an undefeated Hatton, in TKO fashion. Then Pac beats him a year later in KO fashion. When you look at this clearly, it is a great win for BOTH fighters. Floyd took his 0 and Hatton moved up to challenge for Floyd's title. Pac moved up and KO'd Hatton and took his title. BOTH wins are different and has their own story, but at the end of the day BOTH Floyd and Pac have stunning victories over the same guy in title fights. You can't honestly knock one of them and praise the other.

when you said floyd took hatton's 0, that sounded like a knock on pac's win over hatton......if my assomption was wrong then i could also say that pac beat hatton at his best weight, right!.....

[V.WEBB]

when you said floyd took hatton's 0, that sounded like a knock on pac's win over hatton......if my assomption was wrong then i could also say that pac beat hatton at his best weight, right!.....

I wasn't knocking him for that. I clearly just said that in the last post. I mean! And quit thinking someone is trying to knock your idol. Dude, I just said that its a GREAT win for BOTH of them. Saying he took Hatton's 0 is just that, he fought him first and took his 0, great accomplishment. Simple as that.

Yea, he beat him at 140. How is that a knock on Floyd? Think before you post. The same way Floyd had to move up fight Oscar, Hatton had to move up to fight Floyd. Thus, Pac had to move up to fight Hatton, that's why they fought at 140. So say the, he "beat him at this beat weight" argument is silly in this case. Another thing that can not be overlooked is that when Floyd was at that weight, Hatton and his team stated they were not ready, FACT. If you honestly think that Floyd was going to go BACK down to 140 (when he was settled in to 147) to fight Hatton, when he had just captured the lineal title at 147, then you are dreaming!

[baracuda]

I wasn't knocking him for that. I clearly just said that in the last post. I mean! And quit thinking someone is trying to knock your idol. Dude, I just said that its a GREAT win for BOTH of them. Saying he took Hatton's 0 is just that, he fought him first and took his 0, great accomplishment. Simple as that.

Yea, he beat him at 140. How is that a knock on Floyd? Think before you post. The same way Floyd had to move up fight Oscar, Hatton had to move up to fight Floyd. Thus, Pac had to move up to fight Hatton, that's why they fought at 140. So say the, he "beat him at this beat weight" argument is silly in this case. Another thing that can not be overlooked is that when Floyd was at that weight, Hatton and his team stated they were not ready, FACT. If you honestly think that Floyd was going to go BACK down to 140 (when he was settled in to 147) to fight Hatton, when he had just captured the lineal title at 147, then you are dreaming!

ok then.....so sayin pac outperformed floyd vs common opponents should'nt be taken as a knock on floyd' win either coz its also a fact......

[V.WEBB]

ok then.....so sayin pac outperformed floyd vs common opponents should'nt be taken as a knock on floyd' win either coz its also a fact......

Yea, I just wasted my time speaking with you.

[Mr. Chago]

"fighter of the decade" at the begining of every story is getting annoying, we get it, hes great

AGREE...it was annoying enough "Pound for Pound King and Heroe of Asia"...ADD now "Fighter of the Decade"!!! daaaaaammn!

[GRUSTLER]

the oscar that got beat by floyd and manny was old hoya, that is a fact!...floyd won by SD(some people thought oscar won).....hoya did'nt even win a sigle round vs pac and he jumped 2 weightclasses above his natural weightclass......floyd only became #1 in 2005.....pac did'nt get noticed til 2003 and he accomplished hell of a lot more sincethen than floyd.....why do you think he's the fighter of the decade?.....those are facts to you but hres the facts:pac has never been crittized for ducking and floyd' the most critized by expets for that reason....

Pacqiuao ducked Shane Mosely after Margarito, Floyd and
Olympic style random blood tests and through all of Manny's
accomplishment if he retires without taking them tests guaranteed
that he will always be criticized and people will question if he was
cheating or not.

[GRUSTLER]

the oscar that got beat by floyd and manny was old hoya, that is a fact!...floyd won by SD(some people thought oscar won).....hoya did'nt even win a sigle round vs pac and he jumped 2 weightclasses above his natural weightclass......floyd only became #1 in 2005.....pac did'nt get noticed til 2003 and he accomplished hell of a lot more sincethen than floyd.....why do you think he's the fighter of the decade?.....those are facts to you but hres the factsac has never been crittized for ducking and floyd' the most critized by expets for that reason....

The Oscar that fought Floyd was waaay more prepared than
the Oscar that fought Manny and those are facts. Why do
you keep denying that?