y do the mayweather haters ignore that marquez wanted floyd

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  • El Castigador
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    #141
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
    No need for a boxrec, I can do this all of the top of the dome.

    1. Zaheer Raheem-Raheem was a 135. Pac was at 130. Pac wouldn't even rematch Morales there and didnt move up to lw until 2-3 years later.

    2. Shane Mosley-It came down to Cotto or Mosley for Pac's fight in the fall. Cotto beat Mosley, hence top rank picking cotto instead

    3. Casamayor-DLH came calling. You don't turn down a shot at DLH....I dont care who you are. Oscar is the Cashking and the gateway to stardom.

    4. Tapia-Tapia was at 118. Pac physically couldn't make anything below 122. His body wouldn't allow him anymore

    5. Ayala-see Tapia explanation above

    6. Guzman-Pac was gonna fight the Guzman vs Soto winner but instead chose to fight for the Ring belt against JMM. He chose correctly because there was alot of controversy over who really won the first fight.

    7. Austin-Austin....cincinatti kid is one of my favorites. He was way too green for Pac and even at that, he was 118 a weight pac couldn't make anymore

    8. Bradley-Hatton was the ring champ there. More money, bigger fight and Hatton was the #1 rank LWW at the time. This was a division that Hatton was undefeated and had dominated for a long time.

    9. Tokuyama-who??? enough said.

    10. Mayweather-Pac looks like Floyd's b!tch if he bows down and takes those test. This would go into detail but this topic has been beaten to death


    I'm sorry for making something like this look so easy. No boxrec...completely off the dome.
    No one asked for excuses why they werent made. I can easily do the same with Floyd. Just admit that there are fights that Pac shouldve or couldve fought. Thats my point.

    It went over your head.

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      #142
      Originally posted by El Castigador
      Oh I know he skipped those weight classless completely. But hey people say Floyd ducked fighters at 154. Even though eh was there for ONE fight.
      That's still one more fight. I mean, I think the intent of going straight to 122 was that he was draining the christ out of himself and that's why he lost his WBC flyweight belt.

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        #143
        Originally posted by mookiep
        and floyd just obliged? Dudes actin like he went to look for marquez. Marquez after the diaz fight said he wanted to fight floyd to be the real P4P king. Floyd stood up to the man unlike manny's running punk ass.
        margarito
        cotto
        p.williams
        pacquiao

        all of them wanted floyd. But floyd knows that he couldn't beat those guys on the list so he pick a featherweight to go up in welterweight to make sure he win the fight.

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          #144
          Originally posted by El Castigador
          Oh I know he skipped those weight classless completely. But hey people say Floyd ducked fighters at 154. Even though eh was there for ONE fight.
          I've never heard of people bitching about him ducking anyone at 54... who do they say?

          No one was really relevant at the time.

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            #145
            Originally posted by El Castigador
            No one asked for excuses why they werent made. I can easily do the same with Floyd. Just admit that there are fights that Pac shouldve or couldve fought. Thats my point.

            It went over your head.
            dude half of your list were guys that werent even in the same class as him. As far as the rest please tell me which one would you have chosen

            Marquez-a guy who arguable beat you, was the #1 LW, and by beating him you would become the man of the division

            So your saying you would chose Guzman over Marquez with all things considered?

            Casamayor or the cash kind Oscar De La Hoya at 147

            Tim Bradley or Ricky Hatton who is #1 LWW and Ring champ (not to mention a multimillion dollar payday)

            Im sorry but name one descision that you would have made different than what pac did in his career.

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              #146
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              I've never heard of people bitching about him ducking anyone at 54... who do they say?

              No one was really relevant at the time.
              Oh man you been missing out on all the NSB ****ery.

              Floyd ducked Spinks, Sims, Karmarzin and Forrest.

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                #147
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                I've never heard of people bitching about him ducking anyone at 54... who do they say?

                No one was really relevant at the time.
                No one has ever claimed May has ducked anyone at 154. The closest was a Winky fight but everyone clearly gives Floyd a pass since Floyd was considered a small WW at the time. Key difference is Floyd could go to 154 and look good, whereas Pac physically couldn't make 115 and 118 because his body outgrew those classes. Not to get to scientifical, but every human gains weight going form teenage years to 20/21. Your body just naturally gains extra weight around that time.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  dude half of your list were guys that werent even in the same class as him. As far as the rest please tell me which one would you have chosen

                  Marquez-a guy who arguable beat you, was the #1 LW, and by beating him you would become the man of the division

                  So your saying you would chose Guzman over Marquez with all things considered?

                  Casamayor or the cash kind Oscar De La Hoya at 147

                  Tim Bradley or Ricky Hatton who is #1 LWW and Ring champ (not to mention a multimillion dollar payday)

                  Im sorry but name one descision that you would have made different than what pac did in his career.
                  Dude. Stop nut hugging. There are fighters that pac couldve or shouldve fought. Yes or No. That goes for every boxer even Pac.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    No one has ever claimed May has ducked anyone at 154. The closest was a Winky fight but everyone clearly gives Floyd a pass since Floyd was considered a small WW at the time. Key difference is Floyd could go to 154 and look good, whereas Pac physically couldn't make 115 and 118 because his body outgrew those classes. Not to get to scientifical, but every human gains weight going form teenage years to 20/21. Your body just naturally gains extra weight around that time.
                    Yeah, he called Wright out after the Mitchell fight, which was kind of silly, because I don't think they ever wanted to make that fight. No money, a damn hard opponent, and a much bigger guy. Not a good combination.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by El Castigador
                      Dude. Stop nut hugging. There are fighters that pac couldve or shouldve fought. Yes or No. That goes for every boxer even Pac.
                      why don't you answer the questions and explain why?

                      1. De La Hoya or Casamayor

                      2. Marquez rematch or Guzman

                      3. Avenge your loss against Morales or fight Raheem

                      4. Hatton or Bradley

                      BTW it's easy to cop out and call someone a nuthugger instead of dis*****g their points. Why do you dodge my questions?

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