PAC does not even have an inside shot a beating PBF, just a puncher's chance

[PAC-BOY]

Not really, Cotto, Hatton and De La Joto came right at him.

Think about it, the only controversial decisions PAC has been involved were against the same fighter, Juanita.

We all know ***** is head n' shoulders above Juanita in speed, accuracy, sense of timing, sense of distance, footwork and counter-punching ability and add the reach advantage he'll be having over PAC !!

It's a tall order my man, that's all.

This is what makes fighters like JMM and Pac great fighters to watch...the fight. when two fighters come head to head someone is gonna have issues... At the weight now if JMM and PAC were to fight JMM wouldnt make it out the 4th round. But then...(and then dont matter now) Then the two fighters were peaking and IMO JMM was better at that weight. Manny had room to go up and get better. Floyd wont come at him and ingauge in a fight. We know that. PAC will come to him. Look at vid and see what Floyd does when a fighter starts teeing off on him. He goes into his shell and looks to counter when they back out. With pac always being on the gas using angles hehehe Floyd is in deep **** with a guy who will connect and connect hard.

[jimmy webb]

This is what makes fighters like JMM and Pac great fighters to watch...the fight. when two fighters come head to head someone is gonna have issues... At the weight now if JMM and PAC were to fight JMM wouldnt make it out the 4th round. But then...(and then dont matter now) Then the two fighters were peaking and IMO JMM was better at that weight. Manny had room to go up and get better. Floyd wont come at him and ingauge in a fight. We know that. PAC will come to him. Look at vid and see what Floyd does when a fighter starts teeing off on him. He goes into his shell and looks to counter when they back out. With pac always being on the gas using angles hehehe Floyd is in deep **** with a guy who will connect and connect hard.

PAC's angles work great because it worked against fighters who came straight at him.

But, against counter-punchers, he becomes a straight line fighter. FACT

In *****, it will be *****'s angles that he has to deal with. PAC against counter-punchers has shown one thing, he returns to what he does best, the 1-2 combination. Have you ever seen PAC be consistently successful with the right-hook against counter-punchers ??

PAC's right-hook looks good, if the fighter is coming at him.

[PAC-BOY]

Of course I would. It wouldn't make sense to base it off the Hatton, Cotto and De La Joto fights.

Why do you think Freddie Roach himself, focuses so much on the two fights ***** has had against southpaws(Corley & Judah) ??

Common sense, duh

Again you are in another weight class with two complete different fighters. A lot of variables in this to be understood. I can see your point, but How a fighters fights a SP is nothing to how some fights a CP!

[PAC-BOY]

PAC's angles work great because it worked against fighters who came straight at him.

But, against counter-punchers, he becomes a straight line fighter. FACT

In *****, it will be *****'s angles that he was to deal with. PAC against counter-punchers has shown one thing, he returns to what he does best, the 1-2 combination. Have you ever seen PAC be successful with the right-hook against counter-punchers ??

PAC's right-hook looks good, if the fighter is coming at him.

Pac is to smart to be chasing Floyd around. Look at how he was when Cotto started to back pedal. Floyd will fight Mannys fight and he will have to come in and in gauge. I can see Manny going after him but not all fight like most of Floyds opponents. The right hook isnt waht Floyd better be concerned about. IMO this is a hunch it will be a left hook to body and head that end Floyds night. And that 1-2 is a mofo too!

[jimmy webb]

Again you are in another weight class with two complete different fighters. A lot of variables in this to be understood. I can see your point, but How a fighters fights a SP is nothing to how some fights a CP!

WTF are you talkin' about ??

The reason you say PAC has gotten much better since he last fought Juanita is because he wasn't fighting a counter-puncher, duh.

I understand the different variables. But, I only have PAC's previous fights to go on, and as it stands, he hasn't shown great progress against counter-punchers. I'll believe it, when I see it.

Fighting straight-line punchers like Cotto and Hatton does not give me enough info on how PAC will do if and when he faces another counter-puncher and a great one at that !!

[jimmy webb]

Pac is to smart to be chasing Floyd around. Look at how he was when Cotto started to back pedal. Floyd will fight Mannys fight and he will have to come in and in gauge. I can see Manny going after him but not all fight like most of Floyds opponents. The right hook isnt waht Floyd better be concerned about. IMO this is a hunch it will be a left hook to body and head that end Floyds night. And that 1-2 is a mofo too!

But the thing is, PAC will have the to do the chasing around for the most part.

PAC cannot pot-shot the way he was able to against the last three opponents. None of those guys had jab and the speed to go along with the reach advantage to get in and out like ***** has.

De La Joto had the reach advantage, but was simply too slow.

Cotto had a good jab, but he's not really a boxer

And, do I even need to mention Hatton, lmao

[PAC-BOY]

WTF are you talkin' about ??

The reason you say PAC has gotten much better since he last fought Juanita is because he wasn't fighting a counter-puncher, duh.

I understand the different variables. But, I only have PAC's previous fights to go on, and as it stands, he hasn't shown great progress against counter-punchers. I'll believe it, when I see it.

Fighting straight-line punchers like Cotto and Hatton does not give me enough info on how PAC will do if and when he faces another counter-puncher and a great one at that !!

Cotto is not a good counter puncher?

But i take back the ignorant statements. I first took you as a troll. you will see and beleive and you have valid opinions. green sent

[jimmy webb]

Cotto is not a good counter puncher?

But i take back the ignorant statements. I first took you as a troll. you will see and beleive and you have valid opinions. green sent

Cotto can counter, but, ***** is a different animal in that department.

***** is a pure counter-puncher, end of. Arguably, the best boxing has seen, not this time, but of all-time !! He simply has it down like no other I've seen !! That includes Sweet Pea and a slew of others.

[jimmy webb]

Here's my question to you PAC-BOY ?

You've come up with all sorts of reasons why PAC can beat *****. There's nothing wrong with your opinion.

But, would you favor PAC over ***** ? If you were the oddsmaker, would you make PAC the odds-on favorite ?

[PAC-BOY]

Cotto can counter, but, ***** is a different animal in that department.

***** is a pure counter-puncher, end of. Arguably, the best boxing has seen, not this time, but of all-time !! He simply has it down like no other I've seen !! That includes Sweet Pea and a slew of others.

woooooooooh wait a second.... First of all the green door isnt open yet for me to send.

2nd and most importantly.....DONT ever compare Floyd to sweet pea....That is insane. The only way this is excusable is if Sweet Pea is out of your era and you havent seen enough of his fights. Floyd is no sweet pea! If you think so make a thread and do a poll and see how this turns out.