PAC does not even have an inside shot a beating PBF, just a puncher's chance

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  • jimmy webb
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    PAC does not even have an inside shot a beating PBF, just a puncher's chance

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    There's nothing in PAC's past fights against counter-punchers that tells me he could beat *****, sure, PAC has a puncher's chance. But, even in victory, PAC didn't look so great in them.

    Everyone talks about PAC's high workrate as his biggest asset against *****, who has a very economical, but efficient workrate. The problem is, PAC's workrate goes down against counter-punchers, he simply isn't as effective. Struggles to close the distance against a same-size opponent(Juanita), and I would imagine that it would even be more difficult to close the gap against a taller opponent who can jab like *****.
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    #2
    Nice alt. Its a shame you are ignorant.

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    • jimmy webb
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      #3
      Originally posted by PAC-BOY
      Nice alt. Its a shame you are ignorant.
      Not ignorant at all. Just an informed boxing fan. Like I said, PAC has struggled against counter-punchers all his life, and those opponents are nowhere near *****'s caliber.

      Those Juanita Marquez fights is all the proof I need. He was never able to cut the ring off against Juanita. If he wasn't able to get those huge punches off against Juanita, the fight would've been a lopsided UD for Juanita and the scorecards told you that story.

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        #4
        You forgot the steroids that Pac takes. It will be the difference.

        Pac KO Floyd.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Chups
          You forgot the steroids that Pac takes. It will be the difference.

          Pac KO Floyd.
          See, you can't really come up with a solid argument for PAC.

          Facts:

          PAC struggles against counter-punchers

          PAC's crazy workrate goes down to normal against counter-punchers

          PAC gets outmanuevered by counter-punchers

          PAC has difficulty closing the distance against counter-punchers, unless they come to him !!

          I'm not a PAC hater at all, just callin' it how I see it.
          Last edited by jimmy webb; 02-19-2010, 05:42 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by jimmy webb
            Not ignorant at all. Just an informed boxing fan. Like I said, PAC has struggled against counter-punchers all his life, and those opponents are nowhere near *****'s caliber.

            Those Juanita Marquez fights is all the proof I need. He was never able to cut the ring off against Juanita. If he wasn't able to get those huge punches off against Juanita, the fight would've been a lopsided UD for Juanita and the scorecards told you that story.
            JMM at what weight. Still stuck in the past huh. Let it go. Hes gotten MUCH better since then.

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              #7
              Gotta get this fight first !

              Sick and tired of all talk and hypothesis when there's not even a fight to talk about!

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              • jimmy webb
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                #8
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                JMM at what weight. Still stuck in the past huh. Let it go. Hes gotten MUCH better since then.
                Not really, Cotto, Hatton and De La Joto came right at him.

                Think about it, the only controversial decisions PAC has been involved were against the same fighter, Juanita.

                We all know ***** is head n' shoulders above Juanita in speed, accuracy, sense of timing, sense of distance, footwork and counter-punching ability and add the reach advantage he'll be having over PAC !!

                It's a tall order my man, that's all.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jimmy webb
                  See, you can't really come up with a solid argument for PAC.

                  Facts:

                  PAC struggles against counter-punchers WRONG

                  PAC's crazy workrate goes down to normal against counter-punchers WRONG

                  PAC gets outmanuevered by counter-punchers HAHAHA

                  PAC has difficulty closing the distance against counter-punchers, unless they to him !! JMM?

                  I'm not a PAC hater at all, just callin' it how I see it.
                  You base all this on JMM fight? Is this where you stopped watching Boxing?
                  Seriously im trying to be nice and i respect your oppinion, but you have to come up with more than JMM fight. That was a different weight different time and every fight takes lessons out of the ring after a fight. maybe you are discrediting Pac a little much and Floyd not enough. WTF makes Floyd so great...His defense boring running defense.

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                  • jimmy webb
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                    You base all this on JMM fight? Is this where you stopped watching Boxing?
                    Seriously im trying to be nice and i respect your oppinion, but you have to come up with more than JMM fight. That was a different weight different time and every fight takes lessons out of the ring after a fight. maybe you are discrediting Pac a little much and Floyd not enough. WTF makes Floyd so great...His defense boring running defense.
                    Of course I would. It wouldn't make sense to base it off the Hatton, Cotto and De La Joto fights.

                    Why do you think Freddie Roach himself, focuses so much on the two fights ***** has had against southpaws(Corley & Judah) ??

                    Common sense, duh

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