Joe Frazier did have a touring musical group but...

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i think joe has a lot better reason to be bitter than holmes. holmes never got called an uncle tom by a man he financially supported. i don't know how much money joe gave ali, but the fact that he did support him at all and then had to suffer the ridicule from ali and ali's fans says a lot. this wasn't just one joke and then all business before the fight. every minute for months before each ali-frazier fight joes name was dragged through the mud. that can make a man ready to kill someone. and by the way, we all know boxing used to get 10 times the press it does today, which is 10x the number of people hearing the hateful things ali had to say about frazier. ali was a once in a lifetime fighter and most of the time a once in a lifetime character, but he had a mean streak a mile long and it surfaced at the worst of times.

i don't know if joe supported him financially.

he did support ali in getting his license back but to be fair he benefits from ali fighting as well financially.

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Larry Holmes has stated that the times he spent with Ali were among the greatest in his life.


Hardly the words of a bitter man.

ehhh..... i think larry is a bit bitter.

you can sense it in his quotes throughout the years.