The Wright vs Tito fight kinda put's Bernards win into perspective?

[TyrantT316]

People seem to forget that Hopkins KNOCKED out Tito and..Wright didnt...meaning i think..Wright is a better boxer..but Hopkins..is almost as good and can adjust to Wright's style better than anyone..and he has more POWER

well neither of them fight to kill you and knock your head off like Tyson or Manny...

Hopkins fights with a bit more power and counters beautifully...he likes to just put leather on you at times...Winky likes to jab and get off quick punches...Hopkins broke Tito down with shots more powerful than Wrights...but I don't think comparing their victories over Tito means degrading Wright's because he didn't KO Tito...Wright is fine with just having fun and doing his thing...Hopkins just has a bit more power and broke Tito down with better shots throughout the entire fight/...

they both dominated near shutouts...Winky may have given Tito the 12th and Hopkins may have given Tito the 1st and 6th but those rounds could have gone either way in both fights

[Manny_P]

I totally agree with that!... I felt cheated when I bought the Eastman/Hopkins fight on PPV.

Before the fight Hopkins said that he'd looked into Eastman's eye's and he knew that Eastman had come to fight...

So instead of fighting he just ran for 12 rounds! Looking like he was scared of getting hit.

I thought to myself, "I've paid to watch the so called P4P best fighter in the World and he didn't even come to fight???" - cheated out of £15.00

And then not long after I saw Morales/Pacquiao and Arce/Hussien on another bill, and I thought these Mexican guy's don't F**k about... They ain't there to look good for the judges, they ain't scared of getting hit... And THEY DEFINATLY CAME TO FIGHT! These guy's are prize fighters, it's built into them and not only do they want nothing more than to win! They wanna win in style, and prove to the other guy and the WORLD that they're the toughest and the No.1 and they go to WAR!

There are so many fighters that are like this, not just Mexicans... Like Corrales/Pacquiao/Calzaghe/Gatti/Tszyu/Cotto and loads more...

But to me it's not just about going to WAR, It's about coming to fight... Knowing that they've gotta fight on their hands and They mean business!

Hopkins doesn't work this way

Nicely put ma main man! Any post that compliments Pac I give positive karma to.

[Manny_P]

well neither of them fight to kill you and knock your head off like Tyson or Manny...

Hopkins fights with a bit more power and counters beautifully...he likes to just put leather on you at times...Winky likes to jab and get off quick punches...Hopkins broke Tito down with shots more powerful than Wrights...but I don't think comparing their victories over Tito means degrading Wright's because he didn't KO Tito...Wright is fine with just having fun and doing his thing...Hopkins just has a bit more power and broke Tito down with better shots throughout the entire fight/...

they both dominated near shutouts...Winky may have given Tito the 12th and Hopkins may have given Tito the 1st and 6th but those rounds could have gone either way in both fights

and thats what makes Pac exciting to watch. His intention is to HURT his opponents and Knock them out. Positive points fo you doo!

[TyrantT316]

well as Glen Johnson said, "I am not interested in getting my IBF title back from Clinton Woods..I am only interested in the money...I am not getting any younger"

Hopkins I guess realizes he is not getting any younger...the man is 40 year old and fighting better than some 27-33 year olds...I want him to move up as much as the next though

[Moon]

Well we all saw how easily Tito was out-boxed by Wright last night... It was MORE one-sided than when Hopkins fought Trinidad.

So I ask... Did Winky Wright show us last night exactly how much of a fraud Hopkins really is?

This post is obviously intended to create some reaction, but it is such an unbelievably ignorant bit of text, that it doesn't deserve any further attention from actual fight fans.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

This post is obviously intended to create some reaction, but it is such an unbelievably ignorant bit of text, that it doesn't deserve any further attention from actual fight fans.

Munn - "Ohh I know everything about everything don't you know!!!"

Actually have a read of some of the opinions on this thread rather than dissmissing straight away... It was inteneded to disscuss Bernard Hopkins and where he's going, what he's doing etc etc.

And there's more intelligent conversation being had on this thread than most others... There's not a hint of: "I'm gonna open a can of Whoopass on you!!" Or "Ya'll MOFO!".

You say you're a real fight fan then you're more than welcome to express your opinion on this thread.

After all, this is a boxing forum where people are entitled to express their opinion.

[rge]

Well we all saw how easily Tito was out-boxed by Wright last night... It was MORE one-sided than when Hopkins fought Trinidad.

With BHop Tito was unretired, while with Winky was coming from a fight before 29 months of retirement. Also, BHop knocked Tito down and dominated him psychologically.

The only difference being Trinidad came up in weight to fight Bernard where as Wright came up in weight to fight Trinidad.

Tito fought Joppy at middleweight before BHop, and he was ok, so he didn't come up in weight with BHop.

Bernards career is still running solely on the fact that he beat Trinidad back in 2001'. He's fought Carl Daniels - Morrad Hakker - Robert Allen - Willaim Sloppy - Howard Eastman - And poor De La Hoya trying to fight 3 weight classes above himself. Bernard has hardly fought WORLD beater's since his one big fight against the "limited" Trinidad.

BHop boxed 12 rounds with a prime Roy Jones, impossible for Tito.
Trinidad fought past his prime Camacho and Pernell W., and the DLH fight was a gift.

So I ask... Did Winky Wright show us last night exactly how much of a fraud Hopkins really is?

No, he didn't. Winky and BHop are different, and both technically superior to Tito.

[Moon]

There's not a hint of: "I'm gonna open a can of Whoopass on you!!" Or "Ya'll MOFO!".

I suppose that's why you were compelled to add this?

Munn - "Ohh I know everything about everything don't you know!!!"

OK, let's start this thing again. Right now, it seems that you believe Hopkins is a fraud, based on your wording. I'm not sure if that's what you meant though, it just seems that way. My initial response to your question was based on the assumption that you believe Hops is/was a fraud.

So, if you don't mind, let's turn this around and offer you a chance to .....

..... express your opinion on this thread.

It always easy to ask questions, and demand clarification from other posters, but let's hear what you actually think about Wright's success against Tito and how that success should influence our perception of Hopkins.

[dansweeney]

The Tito that winky fought saturday was NOT the same Trinidad that B-HOp fought!!! hopkins ruined trinidad and broke his spirit. the old tito would have kept punching until he broke through wrights guard.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

It would be easier if you scroll up and read the posts on this thread... But give me one sec and I'll do a quick copy and paste for you...

Actually I can't be bothered... Just scroll up.