Hopkins has the most delusional fans. He is not going 12 with Haye.

[General Zod]

How does Floyds Defense do vs. Abraham at 168 Pounds?

Good question

[Spray_resistant]

How does Floyds Defense do vs. Abraham at 168 Pounds?

and imagine an older Floyd who is slower than AA

[Konstantin]

skills can overcome size.

haye beat valuev with one hand, byrd made an entire career taking on much bigger men and boxing their ears of.

hopkins in his prime couldve overcome hayes size with skills and boxing IQ. these days he doesnt have the reflexes and the legs to stay away from haye, or the stamina to keep it up. but in his prime he couldve decisioned haye.

Yeh but look at all the examples your bringing up. Valuev! Slow methodical. Sound like David Haye to you?

The reason Haye beat Valuev is because he has great skills. Yeh Hop has great skills, but they're not enough to overcome Hayes size and skills.

How did Byrd do against athletic, big, powerful heavyweights? KOed by Ikd, Beat to a pulp by Vitali, TKOed by Wlad.

[Mr. Philadel]

like I said I'll bet all of my points IF they fight he goes the distance.

It's not like Haye is a prime Mike Tyson.

Hopkins has arguably the best defense in the game. He's crafty. he knows how to not get hit flush. I mean seriously, when does hopkins ever get hit hard? You'd have to go back 10 years or so.

Hopkins would smother haye and use lateral movement to stay away from haye's big punches. Remember, hopkins doesn't allow his opponents to set up their shots and he certainly doesn't allow them to load up on their shots either.

It's very, very hard to hit hopkins flush, let alone knock him out. Even at this old age.

****, James Toney would go the distance against Haye even at this stage. Why? For the same reasons, Toney has great defense.

EXCELLENT!!!!!

take these dudes to school my dude!!!.....I just let them keep buying into that B.Hop would get KTFO by Haye bull****.......history hasn't taught these cats a dam thing!!

[djtmal]

EXCELLENT!!!!!

take these dudes to school my dude!!!.....I just let them keep buying into that B.Hop would get KTFO by Haye bull****.......history hasn't taught these cats a dam thing!!

cough cough....history has taught us that every time hopkins fights an equally sized, equally talented opponent, he loses...so why would anyone favor him in a fight with a much bigger fighter who has above average skills...

[Clyde Barrow]

Hopkins gets KO'd by Haye. Pointless fight. I really don't think Hopkins should even try CW at this stage of his career. Finish with the Roy rematch.

[General Zod]

cough cough....history has taught us that every time hopkins fights an equally sized, equally talented opponent, he loses...so why would anyone favor him in a fight with a much bigger fighter who has above average skills...

Would you class Tarver as a good win?

[djtmal]

Would you class Tarver as a good win?

not really...tarver just got finished hanging out with stallone on a movie set...

[General Zod]

not really...tarver just got finished hanging out with stallone on a movie set...

Tarver was never any good in the first place, he looked terrible in all of the fights I have seen of him. But Hopkins did move up even though I think it was due to a bit of shrewd matchmaking on his part. Kind of like Jones fighting Ruiz

[Mr. Philadel]

cough cough....history has taught us that every time hopkins fights an equally sized, equally talented opponent, he loses...so why would anyone favor him in a fight with a much bigger fighter who has above average skills...

cough cough....sorry did you say ABOVE AVERAGE skills?!? .....David Haye is NOTHING SPECIAL.....everything about that dude is average as hell......he looks fast against those big slow dudes but he's not so fast......plus his chin is below average......Tarver was a big dude who was supposed to be able to do all this special stuff with his power.......but he got shutdown.......history has shown B.Hop to be SPECIAL.....his chin has never been on trial and feel like its ****ed up that dudes are NOT seeing that!!