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  • #51
    Originally posted by mrlopez View Post
    You can try to turn the tide of public opinion all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Floyd is a safety first fighter.
    One of my favorite fighters of all time is Sweet Pea, to me, he was the one of the best fighters to exhibit the sweet science in terms of hit and not being hit...
    The diff with fmj compared to Whitaker is that Whitaker would entertain the audience/viewers and would take on everyone. FMj doesnt. He just seems content on getting a decision win most of the time even against opponents who dont crack or have no biz in there with him....thats the problem with him, along with his brash **** talking and unwillingness to fight the best. Its about damn time he fights the best in the WW division, although most of the top guys who he should have fought are no longer the same as before his hiding(retirement).....the cat is getting a lil respect by fighting mosely, but if he doesnt do what he says he's gonna do(come back and clean out the ww division), he's going to garner even more haters, both average joe bxing fans, boxers, boxing analysts and scribes....in the end, its up to him, but if i could put my money on it, i doubt he follows through on his words...
    nice post mr. lopez

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    • #52
      A lot of the people in Team Pacquiao seem to talk alot especially with their fighter fighting in just over 3 weeks, Why not concentrate your effort on your fighters upcoming fight and leave the trash talking to the fighters.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
        thats why he has to create a persona because thats the only way he can sell his fights, if he was mild mannered he would have crap ppv numbers. pac draws the crowd through fights not words, thats why pac is great for boxing.
        okay--boxing in itself is a brutal sport---you guys crack me up---yeah, floyd sells the fight like he is going to go out and massacre his opponent, or punish them, and for the most part, he has---but he's a smart fighter--when will you get this--people still buy the ppv even if they already have their minds made up that he is boring to watch----floyd can beat you into submission, people forget that---floyd promised he would punsh gatti, he did just that---floyd punished judah, that zab had to resort to low blows--i never heard floyd say he would punish baldomir, but floyd was the challenger, and he dominated carlos like he was the challenger, which he was in a way---floyd outboxed oscar, and buckled oscar more than 2 times, and if floyd decied to open up, he could have stopped oscar---he fought smart though----he tko'ed hatton after landing right hand leads like it was clockwork--and he didn't stop jmm after 2 years off, and wanting to get the rounds in---so floyd tells us he will kill his opponents, he still dominates them---and he wears them down----and he has amazing stamina---floyd is a 15 round fighter easily---getting hit from him for 12 rounds is not good at all---because he's accurate, pinpoint and sharp with his shots---and his power is decpetive---it's like he fights these guys and he's bored in the ring, because he's just that complex a fighter--and the public builds these guys up like they're the one to beat him, and they end up getting dominated----oscar was dominated---he won 4 rounds maybe---i gave him 3, and the rounds he won, he barely outlanded floyd, but he threw more punches, and was more active--so that fight was more or less oscar trying to make a point, not floyd---oscar fought hard and was dominated---floyd cruised, looked bored, and when he opened up on oscar, he outlanded oscar 27 to 7, or 26 to 6, that's a brilliant fighter---landing more punches, yet throwing much less---floyd is a smart fighter---people will always claim bad things about him, but when it comes down to it at the end of the day, in that ring, floyd mayweather won't lose to anybody, not shane, not pac, not clottey, nobody---he's a complete fighter---wake up and face it---

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        • #54
          Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
          thats why he has to create a persona because thats the only way he can sell his fights, if he was mild mannered he would have crap ppv numbers. pac draws the crowd through fights not words, thats why pac is great for boxing.
          I understand that this is your opinion but this is a dumbass statement. The reason I say this because it doesn't matter if his fights sell because of a persona the only thing that matters is the fight selling. That **** you just said was pure hate. Yes Pac is good for boxing and so is PBF. Nobody wants to see the samething all the time. I am fine with you not liking or even hating the persona that PBF has created but you can't knock it because look at what it has gotten him. It has gotten him to a place even Arum thought he could never reach so you can't say he was wrong for doing it.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
            thats why he has to create a persona because thats the only way he can sell his fights, if he was mild mannered he would have crap ppv numbers. pac draws the crowd through fights not words, thats why pac is great for boxing.
            you know that for sure! what about pac the mild mannerd guy who would never ever think of cheating except on his wife... Your putting your boy on a pedestal, Manny is human if that thought didn't come across. Every one is and everyone falters, sometimes under pressure sometimes not. The pressure on manny was to be the void to fill floyds shoes! To generate millions, to never disapoint his fans to never lose because of his countries pride... you would never question someone who puts out rice for his people of cheating. So why all the BS reasons for no drug test? there is allot of money involved. ALLOT. Maybe manny's is just weighing the odds, if i make the fight and get caught i lose. I can't beat floyd clean. but if i get caught for cheating everything i have created so far... if over! If you where a cheater, would you risk it?

            The greatest trick that a cheating Pacquiao ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. ...

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            • #56
              Why is Team Pac all aboard the Shane Mosley train? I don't get it.

              I thought that they wanted to be the ones to beat Floyd?

              Why are they banking on Shane doing it?
              Last edited by V.WEBB; 02-19-2010, 09:55 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by mrlopez View Post
                You can try to turn the tide of public opinion all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Floyd is a safety first fighter.
                One of my favorite fighters of all time is Sweet Pea, to me, he was the one of the best fighters to exhibit the sweet science in terms of hit and not being hit...
                The diff with fmj compared to Whitaker is that Whitaker would entertain the audience/viewers and would take on everyone. FMj doesnt. He just seems content on getting a decision win most of the time even against opponents who dont crack or have no biz in there with him....thats the problem with him, along with his brash **** talking and unwillingness to fight the best. Its about damn time he fights the best in the WW division, although most of the top guys who he should have fought are no longer the same as before his hiding(retirement).....the cat is getting a lil respect by fighting mosely, but if he doesnt do what he says he's gonna do(come back and clean out the ww division), he's going to garner even more haters, both average joe bxing fans, boxers, boxing analysts and scribes....in the end, its up to him, but if i could put my money on it, i doubt he follows through on his words...
                hold the hell up, being a saftey first fighter has gotten him 40 wins with 0 losses---but does he not have ko's on his record---has he not knocked out bigger opponents? has he not outlanded most to all of his opponents? has he not dominated big punchers, and pressure fighters? he has---being a saftey 1st fighter is obviously a smart thing---taking really no punishment is a testament to his skillset---what fighter out there shouldn't be a safety first fighter---people on here really have twisted logic---you say you appreciate sweet pea, when he is known for his defensive wizardry----yes he fought top competition but os has floyd----the thing is, floyd has dominated top competition for the most part, while pea lost to them---it is what it is---you can't say you appreciate one fighter because he entertains the audience, yet bash another fighter because you think he doesn't entertain the audience---if this was the case, floyd's fights would not hold record attendance buys and over buys over sweet pea---so who looks more boring in that aspect---floyd is an entertainer, and his numbers show it---whether people want him to win or lose, they want him on that tv screen-----

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                • #58
                  I think Team Pacquaio are more afraid of taking the blood test Randomly than they are afraid to fight Floyd Mayweather.

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                  • #59
                    Im not much of a fan of either Mayweather, Mosley or Pacquiao. Their all great, talented & exciting fighters 2 watch but I can't say im a big fan of 1. Anyway all this Mayweather crap coming from the Pacquiao camp is a joke. Every other day Floyds name is coming out the mouth of 1 of Pacquiaos people. Im tired of it already. They didn't make the fight so stop talking about him. Worry about Clottey.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by mrlopez View Post
                      You can try to turn the tide of public opinion all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Floyd is a safety first fighter.
                      One of my favorite fighters of all time is Sweet Pea, to me, he was the one of the best fighters to exhibit the sweet science in terms of hit and not being hit...
                      The diff with fmj compared to Whitaker is that Whitaker would entertain the audience/viewers and would take on everyone. FMj doesnt. He just seems content on getting a decision win most of the time even against opponents who dont crack or have no biz in there with him....thats the problem with him, along with his brash **** talking and unwillingness to fight the best. Its about damn time he fights the best in the WW division, although most of the top guys who he should have fought are no longer the same as before his hiding(retirement).....the cat is getting a lil respect by fighting mosely, but if he doesnt do what he says he's gonna do(come back and clean out the ww division), he's going to garner even more haters, both average joe bxing fans, boxers, boxing analysts and scribes....in the end, its up to him, but if i could put my money on it, i doubt he follows through on his words...
                      I am not trying to change anything because I like PBF and can care less of how anyone else feels about it. I am just stating what I think. I love Sweet Pea also. What you and whoever else find entertaining is on you. I find PBF entertaining and thats all that matter to ME. You can say he is unwilling to fight the best or you can say the business of it didn't make sense for him to fight said person. Either way I am just like you I wish he would have fought Cotto while he was on top and maybe a few others. One thing I won't do though is blame any man for not accepting a deal he feels is unacceptable to him. I wouldn't have blamed Manny for pulling out of the Hatton of De la Hoya fight when he had already SIGNED THE CONTRACT if he wanted more money. Who the **** am I to say "Manny you can't get no more money shut up and fight" People are always gonna hate no matter who it is. **** Manny is getting all this love and he is the media darling right now and supposedly does everything by so called boxing standards. Guess what Manny still has haters so what does that tell you. It tells me that no matter what people do somebody is always going to hate. So just do what pleases you **** what another person over there talking about.

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