Can we put the Mayweather PPV king arguements to rest?

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  • mazdaru
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    #91
    Originally posted by Pacdbest
    Of course Floyd is a Draw... Most PPV buyers wants to see him Lose. They Thought DLH can, Then some fools thought Hatton can, Then the Mex thought JMM can because of his success with pac. But what kind of entertainment does Floyd fights Create compared to pac?? 2 Boring fights?? Then Pac gives us Back to Back action KAYOs. Who gained More Casual fans lately??? I'm sure it's not Floyd!!!
    haha, excuses much?

    a draw is a draw.

    people want to see floyd win, people want to see floyd lose, fact is, people tune in to see floyd one way or another.

    hes the biggest draw in the sport...now slap yourself

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    • DoubleMM
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      #92
      so what happens when PBF vs Mosley outsells Pac-Cotto? Cotto is the bigger draw so that says something...

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      • Sweet Jesus
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        #93
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        doubt it.

        floyd doesn't have oscar's charisma or tyson's ferociousness
        You have to give credit where credit is due. It is pretty impressive that a defensive fighter like Floyd is selling 500K PPVs, let alone 1 million.

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        • mazdaru
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          #94
          Originally posted by Pacdbest
          Did I say He can't draw now? I said Pac's sells more compared to Floyd if we based it on weight classes they've fought in.
          more excuses, with the same opponent, floyd beat pacs numbers

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          • carts
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            #95
            Floyd is the PPV KING!! but if he lose his BIG 0 thats the question if he will still be PPV KING! cus people buy his fight to see him lose that big 0!!

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            • Pacdbest
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              #96
              Originally posted by carts
              Floyd is the PPV KING!! but if he lose his BIG 0 thats the question if he will still be PPV KING! cus people buy his fight to see him lose that big 0!!

              He's not the PPv king anymore!! Pac rules now!! 2008 Pac has 450K,300K, 1.3M, Floyd zero in 2008. In 2009 Pac has 890K and 1.3M PPV, Floyd just 1M. Pac's the current PPV King. Floyd WAS!!! for a year.. Thanks Hoya & Hatton.

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              • oside4life
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                #97
                the only reason why he had big ppv numbers is because of dlh and hatton. I buy floyd fights and I will support his fights. But one thing I do know casual fans like people at my work if you ask them they rather buy a pacquiao fight then mayweather. I think the casual fan rather see a pac fight then mayweather. Me personally I'll buy both fights cause i'm a boxing fan, I appreciate both fighters. One thing I will give credit to money is that he knows how to play the role and sell fights, always give him that.

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                • Calilloyd
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by BBoy MeYHeM
                  Honestly?

                  It seems that all these Floyd boys have this perception that floyd is the PPV king..

                  Hes the biggest NAME in boxing right now, but not the biggest draw..
                  He has made some excellent choices to fight fighters who have strong fanbases which is why his fights sell well.. Its WHO he is fighting.. NOT himself..

                  I hate to beat a dead horse, but look at the baldomir fight.. How much did that sell? werent people leaving the stadium in the middle of the fight?

                  DLH, Hatton, JMM.. all had strong fan bases..

                  The upcoming Pac fight should be compared to the baldomir fight.. both unknown fighters

                  That is a FAIR comparison.. This thread was not intended to flame either

                  You do realize biggest draw and biggest name go together right? If not, what would make him the biggest name? That doesn't make sense. Either way, I couldn't care less. I'm not seeing any of the money. And it's hypocritical for you to complain about people talking up Mayweather's numbers when you make a thread about it.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by oside4life
                    the only reason why he had big ppv numbers is because of dlh and hatton.




                    I buy floyd fights and I will support his fights. But one thing I do know casual fans like people at my work if you ask them they rather buy a pacquiao fight then mayweather. I think the casual fan rather see a pac fight then mayweather. Me personally I'll buy both fights cause i'm a boxing fan, I appreciate both fighters. One thing I will give credit to money is that he knows how to play the role and sell fights, always give him that.
                    Any fighters ppv numbers are dictated by their opponent. Hatton and Delahoya put up their biggest numbers against Mayweather. They didn't do that by themselves. Both drew less against Pacquiao. In Delahoya's case it was much less. And Mayweather also had huge numbers for JMM and no matter what anybody thinks or says about urine and Mexican independence day, Mayweather sold that fight. Marquez had never seen those types of numbers and he never will again.
                    Last edited by Calilloyd; 02-19-2010, 12:13 AM.

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                    • oside4life
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Calilloyd
                      Any fighters ppv numbers are dictated by their opponent. Hatton and Delahoya put up their biggest numbers against Mayweather. They didn't do that by themselves. Both drew less against Pacquiao. In Delahoya's case it was much less. And Mayweather also had huge numbers for JMM and no matter what anybody thinks or says about urine and Mexican independence day, Mayweather sold that fight. Marquez had never seen those types of numbers and he never will again.
                      Not saying he doesn't sell fights i can't argue that. But to me the ppv kings will always be dlh and tyson, doesn't even matter that their not fighting anymore. When those two fought there was a buzz huge buzz when money fights I don't get that feeling from casual fans. But if you told a casual fan that tyson was fighting a cat their going to buy it no matter what. MOney does get numbers what i'm trying to say is dude doesn't bring the same buzz or atmosphere to a fight he needs help to do that. You want to know what star is check hou tito trinidad entrance coming into the garden against anyone. Thats a star, money can't do that sorry mayweather fanatics your fighter is not a superstar he is not beloved like most of you believe PERIOD

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