Can we put the Mayweather PPV king arguements to rest?

[El Castigador]

if it were measured by ticket sales then Arthur abraham would be the biggest draw in boxing.

Add Wlad o that list. Problem is no one outside there home wil pay to watch them.

[Schmerzen]

you're ******ed. i dont know why i waste my time on you. im not even gonna bother using that same ******ass logic to work in pacquiao's favor because you're just going to try to defend it in a equally ******ed manner.

same thing can be said about u, being a hypocrite ftw..

[M.I.C.]

maybe.... but doesn't ticket sales count for something?

NO, cause promoters can always buy huge chunks and find a crowd to sell or give them to. So can fighters and anyone else involved in the event. Buying PPV is a decision made by individuals in their home and that is a much tougher sale. IMO, PPV sales is a more accurate way of showing that an individual or the event itself is a draw.

[El Castigador]

Listen, all I was trying to say was that.. Floyd does well on his PPVs because he fights fighters with Huge fanbases..

I mean, most of the ppl who watched the
DLH fight, were DLH fans, everytime DLH threw a punch the crowd went nuts..
The Hatton fight was a huge amount of fans from the UK
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He has made some excellent business decisions in fighting these big name fighters with big fanbases..

I mean, I truly believe that if Floyd fought Clottey he'd sell less than manny P.
thats just my opinion.. we will never find this out because floyd wont fight another fighter like that.. only big named oponents (which i cant blame him)

Whats your take on Pac fighting Hatton, Oscar and JMM just like Floyd did. O and then fighting Cotto who is a big draw himself.

I mean since Floyds opponent did all the work right?

Also can you answer me why with common opponents Floyd outsold Pac EVERY time?

[shadeyfizzle]

Good point. Floyd-Oscar did not outsell Oscar-Pac by 1 million PPVs because Oscar was such a big draw. It was because of Mayweather. Also, in spite of the Pac worshippers continued claims, JMM has never been a PPV draw. His previous two fights prior to Mayweather were both on regular HBO and Showtime, not PPV. The fight with Mayweather drew 1 million because of Mayweather, not JMM. The same applies to Mosley. His last four fights against Margarito, Ricardo Mayorga, Cotto and Luis Collazo were all on regular HBO because he cannot draw on PPV. The Mayweather-Mosley fight will sell big because of Mayweather, not because of Mosley. Anyone with any sense could see that (of course that excludes most of the posters on this message board).

that logic is as ******ed as burner's logic.

Mayweather vs Mosley will sell because it's going to be on cinco de mayo week and they will be loading the undercard with latin fighters. once again piggybacking off the fanbase of other fighters.

Margarito-Mosley set a record for fight attendance in the staples center.
Jmm vs Cassamayor was a ppv.

Why do you idiots swear that ppv sales are end-all be-all definitive measure of drawing power.

[Clyde Barrow]

Why does anybody care about this bollocks?

[M.I.C.]

Listen, all I was trying to say was that.. Floyd does well on his PPVs because he fights fighters with Huge fanbases..

I mean, most of the ppl who watched the
DLH fight, were DLH fans, everytime DLH threw a punch the crowd went nuts..
The Hatton fight was a huge amount of fans from the UK
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So explain to us please why Pac didn't sell as many PPV when he fought Hatton, ODLH, and Marquez....why exactly do PPV numbers go up when Floyd is involved?

[GTL]

Good point. Floyd-Oscar did not outsell Oscar-Pac by 1 million PPVs because Oscar was such a big draw. It was because of Mayweather. Also, in spite of the Pac worshippers continued claims, JMM has never been a PPV draw. His previous two fights prior to Mayweather were both on regular HBO and Showtime, not PPV. The fight with Mayweather drew 1 million because of Mayweather, not JMM. The same applies to Mosley. His last four fights against Margarito, Ricardo Mayorga, Cotto and Luis Collazo were all on regular HBO because he cannot draw on PPV. The Mayweather-Mosley fight will sell big because of Mayweather, not because of Mosley. Anyone with any sense could see that (of course that excludes most of the posters on this message board).

DLH was much closer to his prime then..
Most fans knew he was damaged good by the time he fought floyd..

Correct me if im wrong, but werent ticket sales doing horribly for that fight leading them to postpone it? Just saying

[Pullcounter]

NO, cause promoters can always buy huge chunks and find a crowd to sell or give them to. So can fighters and anyone else involved in the event. Buying PPV is a decision made by individuals in their home and that is a much tougher sale. IMO, PPV sales is a more accurate way of showing that an individual or the event itself is a draw.

hmm... but what about when a boxer can get his fans to travel 100+ miles to see him fight? that's gotta count for something right?

[El Castigador]

that logic is as ******ed as burner's logic.

Mayweather vs Mosley will sell because it's going to be on cinco de mayo week and they will be loading the undercard with latin fighters. once again piggybacking off the fanbase of other fighters.

Margarito-Mosley set a record for fight attendance in the staples center.
Jmm vs Cassamayor was a ppv.

Why do you idiots swear that ppv sales are end-all be-all definitive measure of drawing power.

You give Floyd no credit at all. So you are saying Floyd is not a draw?