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  • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    if you have REAL evidence of roiding then please produce the evidence. I dont' want your su****ions, opinions, presumptions... REAL EVIDENCE PLEASE. k thanx.



    you can "believe" anything you want. belief doesn't need real proof/evidence. When you have real proof and evidence then that will really help me. thanx.
    You sure do have a problem with alot of people's beliefs. I mean, no one here has accused Pacquiao. Atleast not in this thread so...

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    • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      I never said I was an expert.

      you think you are?



      I raise my eyebrows when people say talk of pac roiding was going before floyd sr flapped his gums. before then, all anyone ever talked about was pac not fighting black boxers or some other nonsense.
      I think it has more to do with Pacquiao's team reaction to the testing more then the words of a senile old man that started all the talk. If he would have smiled and taken the tests this wouldn't even be an issue.

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      • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
        No but I doubt you gave any lessons about the significance of Olympic drug testing during your stint here on BS. Floyd sure knows how to start a trend.
        You doubt and are wrong. It's ok, you wouldn't be the first. I don't go hard for this because I have a bias. In fact, you and tortilla warrior used to big me up all the time when I went in on what you term "*****s." But now that I'm not beholdened to your hero I've joined that pack, eh? Please.

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          I don't understand that the supposedly P4P #1 fighter in the world
          that demolished his last 4 opponents would be scared of needles
          and or to take random blood tests for 40MIL?!!!! I'm not accusing
          him because I like to have solid proof but innocent people don't
          do **** like that when it comes to money. Pac should have laughed
          that off and took the tests, proved Floyd wrong and went in the
          ring and did what he had to do BUT he didn't. With all the evidence
          and words coming out of Roach and Arum's mouth, you would think
          people would be smarter to know that Team Pac is on some bull****.
          Roach said Floyd is different from all the fighters Pac has fought
          INCLUDING Cotto and that they need more time to study Floyd
          AND he needs to change Pac style up to have a chance to compete
          with Floyd AND get Pac to see what he sees? If that doesn't tell
          you that Roach feels Manny can't beat Floyd then how much more
          proof do you need? If Manny doesn't take the random blood tests and
          fight Floyd, then his new name will be NANNY JUICEMENOW
          right... and the boxing world should jump when floyd says jump?

          why doesn't floyd do it the right way and bring up the issue of steroid use with the NSAC and use his money and influence to get OST done in boxing matches.

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          • Pullcounter, "real evidence" (that is, evidence that cannot be disputed or superseded) can only be provided at Manny's approval - which he refuses to grant. What do you say to that? Tough ****?

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            • Originally posted by fabie View Post
              Alluding to Mayweather's gospel is the main culprit....being a fan of his makes it less understandable about the sport of boxing, er, I meant "BIZNIZ"....

              LOL
              Obviously I touched a nerve but let me ask YOU this question.
              Would YOU turn down 40MIL over some random blood tests?
              Just because the guy who asked you to do it was the one
              you were fighting AND he agreed to do it too? Mayweather
              was taking the tests too. what's the big deal?

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                right... and the boxing world should jump when floyd says jump?

                why doesn't floyd do it the right way and bring up the issue of steroid use with the NSAC and use his money and influence to get OST done in boxing matches.
                It's not about jumping when Floyd says jump. It's about having
                the fight being fair and square AND both guys knowing that both
                are coming in the ring clean, on the up and up and ready to fight.
                What's so wrong with that? Mosley agreed to take the tests and
                he is a proven cheater AND Miguel Cotto couldn't even understand
                why Pacquiao didn't want to take the tests? Come on Pull. Manny
                took a big pay cut fighting Clottey because he felt like he was being
                picked on and bullied by Floyd? BULL****.
                Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-18-2010, 02:56 PM. Reason: Correction.

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Why is that a "proper" channel? Do you realize that random testing is already in NSAC protocol? They just don't enforce it because they don't want to shell out for it (Keith Kizer). So there's no need to go to them. You go to the fighter and if he agrees, it's on. Do you hear the commission saying, "hey, you can't do that! It's against our rules!" Exactly.
                  that's great. so why doesn't floyd just lobby to get the NSAC to enforce their rules instead slandering pac's name.

                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                  You sure do have a problem with alot of people's beliefs. I mean, no one here has accused Pacquiao. Atleast not in this thread so...
                  I have no problem with people's beliefs, but when they pose it as fact, then i have a problem. I've always defended the "innocent until proven guilty" position. Even for margarito in the cotto fight. You should know this.

                  Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
                  I think it has more to do with Pacquiao's team reaction to the testing more then the words of a senile old man that started all the talk. If he would have smiled and taken the tests this wouldn't even be an issue.
                  Its all connected. if said senile old man never slandered pac, no one would even be talkking about roids. the arguments would go back to pac avoiding black boxers and such.

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                  • The big deal is that Team Pacquiao doesn't want to take any chances with blood testing or facing May. If and when they fight Floyd it will be to cash out and retire. Clottey is a diversion to buy time

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      You doubt and are wrong. It's ok, you wouldn't be the first. I don't go hard for this because I have a bias. In fact, you and tortilla warrior used to big me up all the time when I went in on what you term "*****s." But now that I'm not beholdened to your hero I've joined that pack, eh? Please.
                      I never used the word *****s back then, I never had anything against Floyd really. I actually enjoyed Floyd and would marvel at his ability. Maybe you are a real crusader, if that is the case I shall focus more on your arguments instead of your allegiance. This is all for fun meng, we had it with the Mexicans, the PR, now it just so happens that floyd is African American. You can't tell me it is a coincidence you are rooting for Floyd in this. It is all good in the end it will pass and we can reassess were we are as boxing fans. Nothing personal just nuthugging.

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