Does Mosley Have a Chance Against Mayweather?

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #71
    Originally posted by TintaBoricua
    This site is hilarious. Months ago people were talking about how Mayweather was avoiding Mosley and this and that.....when he finally DOES sign the contract...they're already discrediting Mayweather's opponent and the fight is months away.

    There was little badmouthing of Mosley as an opponent for Mayweather, and now with the fight materialized, he's suddenly another opponent that isn't good enough.

    It was sort of like the Calzaghe/Dawson ordeal...people were talking about how Calzaghe was ducking Dawson and all that after he retired. A few months later (I think when Dawson beat Tarver the second time), people started migrating towards the side of: "Well...I don't think Dawson isn't good enough to beat Calzaghe."

    Make up your mind, dammit!
    you are a moron. 86% of people who voted say Shane has a chance, exactly how is that discrediting him as an opponent.

    You just make shi t up huh? Most of the people badmouthing Shane are floe fans who think Shane will be easy work.

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    • KESSLER
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      #72
      Yeah, he's got a chance against Mayweather. Shane is still going strong.. If he was as shot as Roy Jones etc, it would be a different story.

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      • Sugar Ram
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        #73
        Originally posted by -Reason-
        Does Mosley Have a Chance Against Mayweather?
        February 17th, 2010
        By Niko Tricarico

        Well, let’s examine what attributes he holds over little Floyd. First of all, Mosley hits harder. That’s a no-brainer. So, one for Mosley…let’s see what else, what else? He’s…he’s taller. That’s another thing. Mosley is taller than Floyd. There’s no getting around that one either. What else? He seems like a nicer guy. So, Mosley has a more pleasant disposition than Floyd. I guess that doesn’t really work for this list though.

        The truth is that Mosley has a very slim chance at victory on May 1st. Over the course of his career he has demonstrated immense ineptitude’s when dealing with technically proficient fighters and there is no one more capable at exposing that flaw than Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mosley lost to Forrest twice, Wright twice, he was losing to De La Hoya twice before he was able to goad Oscar into a brawl, and he lost to Cotto. Forrest stayed tight and peppered Mosley with jabs, straight rights and upper cuts. Wright beat him with a jab and only the jab (why Mosley didn’t incorporate lateral footwork and head movement to offset Winky’s offense, especially in the rematch, is an absolute mystery). Oscar was beating him with the jab, but then again Oscar loves to mix it up and against Mosley he paid a heavy penalty for his lack of commitment to a sound game plan. And Cotto pretty much beat Mosley with the jab and straight rights too.

        Mosley has no jab of his own to speak of; instead he dangles his left hand out in front of his opponent like a buoy in an ocean and then winds up with his right hand. Against Mayweather this is a mistake. When Mosley throws a punch, he leans back, twists his entire body, loads up and releases his fist like a sling shot stretched to the limits of its elasticity. When a puncher winds up like that against Mayweather he very calmly ducks, leans back or darts in with blinding speed hitting the aggressor with a quick left hook and then smothers the punch by keeping close to his opponent. His reflexes are too precise to be hit by a telegraphed punch. Mayweather will not be goaded into a brawl. He will not lose his cool. He can not be rattled, shaken or thrown off his game. He is too strong mentally and too confident in his ability. How does Mayweather beat a good fighter like Mosley so easily? The same way he beats everyone else…

        1. The Straight Right Hand

        He bends forward at the waist and widens his stance so that he can lean back onto his right foot if his opponent throws a punch. He then, like a spring loaded coil, throws his right hand, ducks underneath the counter and usually ends up somewhere behind his befuddled foe. If he’s not countering with it, he will often times lead with the straight right hand. This becomes more prevalent as the fight goes on and his confidence builds.

        2. The Left Hook

        As with the straight right hand sometimes he leads with the left hook and sometimes he counters with it. When he leads with it he lunges in, hits his opponent with the left, smothers the counter, then raises their head by pushing up under their chin with his forearm and smacks them with a right before bouncing back out of range. Mayweather is so fast on the draw and his reflexes so precise that he can throw the counter left hook after his opponent does and still make contact first. He did this against Hatton when he check hooked him into the ring post.

        The way to beat Mayweather is not by coming forward and throwing hooks. He blocks looping right and left hands with hilarious ease. He cocoons himself in a shell and raises his elbows up deflecting punches as though a child were attacking him. In order to have any shot at beating him a better strategy would be to create angles and come up through the middle, which is why a good jab has proven effective against Mayweather.

        But Mosley doesn’t have a jab does he?
        IF U GOT 2 HANDS and a good HEARTBEAT,Then u have a chance..

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        • Joe2608
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          #74
          I think the question mark is over his stamina. If his stamina isn't up to par due to his age then he won't win a decision, remember stamina will affect his speed and power in second half of the fight too.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #75
            Originally posted by pbftxrs316
            mosley can't outthink floyd, can't outbox floyd, can't out jab floyd--can't out move floyd---shane does dangle his jab out there to throw his opponents off coz he thinks they'll fall for it and he can land his right hand with massive power, but that only works against stationary fighters---floyd is a complete fighter and he has shanes style mastered down to a tee---and he'll even list shane's flaws and how he will expose them---the thing with shane is that even though he is a strong puncher, he's a robotic fighter--he looks like he could be elusive and gives that impression, but he fights too stiff---he fights on his toes some, but he mainly stands flatfooted when he throws his power punches and that's the key--shane has to stay on his toes, coz floyd loves to leap off of his toes when he strikes and his comes fast---floyd angles his body very elusively---

            floyd's upperbody movement and how he positions his body when he counters is the key for him because shane is not used to fighting counterpunchers and when he gets caught off guard, he goes into his fight mode and falls into his bad habits like closing his eyes to give himself more ummmph in his punches, and it's a habit floyd has picked up on years ago---shane throws his jab to the body, but he does it too stiff and leans forward when he does it, which is not smart because he's so tense that floyd will counter over it, and shane won't have time to move out of the way because of his positioning----

            shane can outpower floyd, no doubt, but he has to do it conservatively, because he has tired out from going too hard with his punches, and floyd stays poised in the ring and calm and he calculates his opponent's movement very well---floyd will use shane's movement and timing against him----this is why floyd is a complete fighter mentally because he sees everything, he has 6th sense it seems like---and floyd is a 2 handed fighter---ampedextrous---he can turn southpaw and land punches as if it's his natural fighting stance----watch how floyd uses shane's movements to time shane---floyd uses his opponent's strengths to tire them out, which is why he lets them wail away on him, and he just slowly dips and rolls with the punches and blocks them and throws his potshots in between their punches--to the body and the head---

            another key component to floyd beating shane is that floyd counterpunches off of his blocks, and shane can get caught with sneaky right hand counters, and when floyd uses his lead shoulder to hide his right hand, it's very hard for his opponent to avoid getting caught with it---and shane's defense is not that super--it's decent at best---shane is a warrior, no doubt, but he has problems with technicians, and even with him fighting different styles like forrest, mosley, de la hoya, and vargas, and cotto, none of those fighters put everything together well like floyd does---none of them---forrest comes close, but not even he has the movement floyd has, or the defense floyd has---forrest killed shane, and i expect floyd to do the same---

            shane has to pressure floyd, but he has to do it while trying to outbox him---i don't see it happening---****m is a great trainer, but he has never trained a fighter for a style like floyd's---he has his work cut out for him----floyd knows his strengths and he knows shane's strengths, but even with shane's strength, he uses them with bad habits---watch how floyd breaks shane down---floyd is brilliant in that ring---it's a cakewalk---floyd will train hard for this fight to make it looks easy in the ring---
            these are the biggest pieces of trash in your entire worthless post.

            Floyd is totally prepared for Shane even though he hasn't fought anyone even close to the talent of Shane (old DLH is the closest), yet Shane has fought a number of world class technicians and boxers but they could never prepaer him for shane..... HAHAHAHAHAHAH You are laughable, you have no credibility! Then you say Floyd will kill Shane cuz Forrest did????? 6 foot plus vernon and 5'8 floyd????

            Your whole post is really really bad, shane is not used to fighting counter punchers??? Ok, I guess a PRIME Oscar couldn't counter, neither could Winky or Collazo....

            Well, since when is floyd used to fighting guys like shane? Please let me know when Floyd fought someone like Shane in order to prepare him for this fight?

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            • Amazinger
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              #76
              Originally posted by TriPHP
              Everyone has a 50-50 chance because it's boxing.


              ???????
              not all boxers are equal.some are more equal than others.

              The chance of Floyd winning is 20% to nothing.
              KO/TKO win by ShaMe"I don't know what I'm injecting to myself" Mostly

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