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  • Murcielago
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    #11
    #1) Hopkins
    #2) Winky
    #3) Mayweather
    #3) Morales [#3 not a typo]
    #5) Kostya Tzsyu
    #6) JM Marquez
    #7) Barrera
    #8) Corrales
    #9) Castillo
    #10) Pacquiao

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    • Run
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      #12
      (clears throat)





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      • Manny_P
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        #13
        We all know who should be #1 right now. I bare the gifted one's name!

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        • Tha Greatest
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          #14
          Originally posted by Runw/knives
          (clears throat)

          I really agree

          he beat morales when he was the underdog in great fashion n dont get the credit he deserves

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          • DLT
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            #15
            Originally posted by Murcielago
            #1) Hopkins
            #2) Winky
            #3) Mayweather
            #3) Morales [#3 not a typo]
            #5) Kostya Tzsyu
            #6) JM Marquez
            #7) Barrera
            #8) Corrales
            #9) Castillo
            #10) Pacquiao
            Come on man. Where is Toney. The guy beat Jirov was the undisputed cruiserweight champ and moved up to heavy and beat Holy and Ruiz easily. He started at middelweight. Have you seen R.Marquez? This guy beat Too Sharp twice, once by KO and KO Tim Austin and he cant make your list. Zab just KO the Welter champ. All the great fighters Chico and Castillo have been fighting? Stop recycling these same guys. How can you have Juan Marquez over his brother?

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            • DLT
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              #16
              Originally posted by ThaGreatest
              I really agree

              he beat morales when he was the underdog in great fashion n dont get the credit he deserves
              Just 2 fights ago he was dominated and TKO. If that happened to Floyd then you guys wouldnt put him on the list or Winky or the other guys. Stop recycling these guys. It wasnt too long ago when he lost to Morales and he has been fighting a bunch of old and washed up guys. Give me a break

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              • Murcielago
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                #17
                I really enjoyed the Toney/Jirov fight, but Jirov wasn't in anyones top 10 p4p list when they fought; maybe not even top 15. Beating Holyfield at this point in time is not such a great accomplishment, and Ruiz?.... please... he doesn't count. I like Toney, but beating those three guys you mentioned is not better than the fighters Barrera, Morales, Castillo, and Corrales have beaten.

                Yes I've seen R. Marquez... but lately he hasn't beat anyone thats' someone. Zab KO'd Spinks, after losing the first fight with him; Spinks is not that good.Tzsyu crushed Zab, how can you have them so close on your list disregarding other great fighters who've fought other great fighters without getting KO'd ala Zab?

                I believe Juan Manuel Marquez can beat Barrera, Pacquiao and even Morales.

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                • Cambria
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Murcielago
                  #1) Hopkins
                  #2) Winky
                  #3) Mayweather
                  #3) Morales [#3 not a typo]
                  #5) Kostya Tzsyu
                  #6) JM Marquez
                  #7) Barrera
                  #8) Corrales
                  #9) Castillo
                  #10) Pacquiao

                  I agree with the first 3. I would give Kostya #4 and Barrera #5

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                  • Murcielago
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                    #19
                    Just 2 fights ago he was dominated and TKO. If that happened to Floyd then you guys wouldnt put him on the list or Winky or the other guys. Stop recycling these guys. It wasnt too long ago when he lost to Morales and he has been fighting a bunch of old and washed up guys. Give me a break

                    He made up for that by beating Morales two fights later. And you well know that the Barrera that fought Pacquiao was not the same Barrera that beat Morales and Hamed.

                    Morales beat the fighter who KO'd the last fighter to beat him, what does that tell you?

                    You mentioned Morales would have lost to Chavez if it wasn't for Chavez hurting his arm. Morales did knock Chavez down twice in round 2. Did Chavez have both his arms functioning in tht round? Yes he did, maybe... just maybe if he wouldn't of hurt his arm... he might have even been KO'd hence being able to punch with both arms leaves more openings for your adversary. Does it not?

                    Morales has won three titles in three weight divisions... only the second fighter from Mexico to do that. He went up there and fought two titleholders and beat them. It was apparent he wasn't up for the Barrera fight and lost it.

                    Floyd in my view lost to Castillo the first fight and he's lucky I have him that high because recently he hasn't done ****... and beating Gatti is not that great of an accomplishment.

                    I stand by my list.

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                    • Run
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Just 2 fights ago he was dominated and TKO. If that happened to Floyd then you guys wouldnt put him on the list or Winky or the other guys. Stop recycling these guys. It wasnt too long ago when he lost to Morales and he has been fighting a bunch of old and washed up guys. Give me a break
                      haha. He beat the crap out of Morales.....who beat Pac's ass. He also won his last fight by brutal knockout against a decent contender. If you dont have M.A.B. on a P4P list......you are smokin. Plain and Simple.

                      Give me a break. Rafael Marquez? LOL. come on....who has he beat?

                      He made up for that by beating Morales two fights later. And you well know that the Barrera that fought Pacquiao was not the same Barrera that beat Morales and Hamed.
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                      yup. well said. I dont care what anyone says....or how ratings work. He is a top 5 fighter in the sport, and there is no room for him to be replaced.



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                      Last edited by Run; 05-15-2005, 02:23 AM.

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