You guys are really undersestimating Clottey.

[tredh]

Clottey is decent but don't make him or this fight into something it is not.

[- JCHING -]

Judah can slip punches much better than Pac, has a better jab and can stick and move better than Pac. He is much harder to time than Pac who comes in and out. Judah lacks stamina but he can punch as hard as Pac. Remember at 140 he had fight ending power. Pac's KDs of Cotto were mostly due to surprise than power. Remember he couldn't KD a shot, weight drained de la Hoya and Cotto was a TKO.

Clottey is a technically sound boxer. As sound as JMM. The only style difference from JMM is that he is much more defensive and takes less risks.

Pac will take a lot of punishment and will only win based on being the busier fighter. He'll get the decision because even though he'll be less effective he's the big star and Clottey's effectiveness will not be as exciting or crowd pleasing as Pac's high volume activity. It'll go to the scorecards because I highly doubt Clottey can KO PAC. Also Pac is too durable to be broken down the way Clottey broke Judah down for it to be a glaring victory for Clottey.

Let's agree to disagree and enjoy the fight.

LOL, Yea I'm still hoping for a good fight.

I'm definitely open to be proven wrong by Clottey.

Just can't see it.

[Eaner0919]

like the guy in ur avatar being outclassed by ur God, Floyd Jr? if Chico is small compared to Clottey, how do u see Pac against Clottey? then u will claim that Clottey-Pac fight is a mismatch. Shaddap u p*nk.

wow so this is what NSB has turned into?

sad

[βetamax]

just no cmon now you cannot possibly believe this?

in two fights at welter Manny has half the amount of KOs that Judah has as a welter.....and it took him 14 fights

know facts please before making statements like that

Most of Manny's KO's or KD's are from accumulation or throwing punches from odd angles the opponent doesn't seem coming which have a greater effect. As far as one punch power, I don't think they are probably far apart.

Manny of course will be throwing a lot more so I expect Clottey to have a harder time then he did against Judah but at the same time Pacquiao might be easier to hit in return.

[rocky_balboa23]

wow so this is what NSB has turned into?

sad

and u will comeback with that statement? u just mentioned Corrales being beaten by Clottey because of the size disparity. then u will say that Pac-Clottey is a mismatch when in fact Corrales is a lot lot bigger than Pac. Dont mention reasons that can backfire and discredit ur previous statement.

[Eaner0919]

and u will comeback with that statement? u just mentioned Corrales being beaten by Clottey because of the size disparity. then u will say that Pac-Clottey is a mismatch when in fact Corrales is a lot lot bigger than Pac. Dont mention reasons that can backfire and discredit ur previous statement.

no I never mentioned that seems to me like you have trouble understanding what is being said

I said I had no interest in seeing a small, prior to this fight Corrales fought as a lightweight, get beat up by a guy who often weighs as much as 170lbs come fight time. Every who knew Chico knew he was way out of shape, even asking for a 149lb weight limit, and was in no shape to fight that fight. Yet he still gave it his all like Chico could. Chico's condition was probably the major factor in him losing. If Chico were in shape well then he would have not been fighting at welterweight in the first place

Corrales is taller than Pacquiao. Thats about it. Manny is much wider than Chico ever was, Manny's lower torso is much thicker than Chico's etc etc

height does not equal being bigger

anyways you seem more content on talking about other people's avatars than about the sport so I know now not to continue to read your drivel

thanks

[Eaner0919]

Most of Manny's KO's or KD's are from accumulation or throwing punches from odd angles the opponent doesn't seem coming which have a greater effect. As far as one punch power, I don't think they are probably far apart.

Manny of course will be throwing a lot more so I expect Clottey to have a harder time then he did against Judah but at the same time Pacquiao might be easier to hit in return.

um

JMM he one punched him three times in the first dropping him

JMM II in the third he one punched JMM down

Cotto he one punched in consecutive round

Hatton he stopped in the second

not exactly an accumulation of punches taking effect if you ask me

by contrast when was the last time you have seen Judah one punch anyone of note?

[The_Sneaky]

I think you're giving Clottey far too much credit here. The guy is a solid fighter, but he's not that good.

Essentially I see this fight going much the same way as Pac/Cotto did, regardless of hype.

Clottey won't take as much punishment as Cotto did against Pac due to his defense, but he also won't inflict as much damage as Cotto did on Pac, as Clottey isn't active enough, takes time off in rounds and doesn't hit as hard as Cotto.

Pacquiao loves a guy who stalks him down and that lacks lateral movement. Pac will be buzzing about him, using his speed and awkwardness to find gaps in Clotteys defense, whilst making it hard for Clottey to land anything meaningful.

I like haveing a lively debate so let continue. I said I see the fight more like Hopkins-de la Hoya.

Here are my reasons.
CLOTTEY
1. Clottey like Hopkins is bigger, has a longer reach and had been fighting at that weight for a long time.
2. Clottey like Hopkins has excellent defense
3. Clottey like Hopkins uses little movement
4. Clottey like Hopkins has low output but high accuracy
5. Clottey like Hopkins relied on timing and counterpunching
PAC
1. Pac like de la Hoya was the more popular favourite
2. Pac like de la Hoay was the much faster guy in terms of hand speed
3. Pac like de la Hoya had much faster feet and movement
4. Pac like de la Hoya throws in flurries and volume
5. Pac like de la Hoya was relying heavily on his speedy left hand

Now tell me why the fight is more like Pac-Cotto.

[Clyde Barrow]

Nothing wrong with this fight. To much bitching because the style advantage is in Pac's favor. Clottey is a good fighter, his low output is just his downfall against a busy fighter.

[FloydTBE]

Clottey has a good chin, hes flat-footed and he doesnt throw many punches. I dont think thats underestimating him, its just stating the facts based on his previous fights.