You guys are really undersestimating Clottey.

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  • mathed
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    #111
    This fight will be great, even the "haters" will watch it even if they are saying it is not going to be worth watching. Clottey is a beast and he will make it a really good fight.

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    • El Castigador
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      #112
      Clottey lost every big fight hes had. This one will be no different. He is a loser. Nothing more.

      Hes been boxing since 1995 and Baldimir has a better career then him.

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      • Talisayen
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        #113
        Originally posted by El Castigador
        Clottey lost every big fight hes had. This one will be no different. He is a loser. Nothing more.

        Hes been boxing since 1995 and Baldimir has a better career then him.
        Do you know that nobody believes you?

        Carry on...

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        • BennyST
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          #114
          I'm just not sure about the whole trainer thing and the short notice of it all. If Clottey had had the full training time and his trainer on hand, I would give him a big shot to beat Pac, but he has had short notice, and his trainer was screwed and not allowed over to train him.

          It's a weird situation. Maybe they knew about it or something or maybe Arum wanted his trainer not to come over....?

          Anyway, if Clottey comes in in proper fighting shape, and that's a big 'if' right now, then he gives Pacman serious problems. if not then Pac wins it on output alone.

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          • BennyST
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            #115
            Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
            ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS IF YOU CAN"T SEE IT FOR YOURSELF THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG!

            look at the math bro SERIOUSLY. I AM NO *****!

            break it down

            SPEED
            PAC 10 - combos
            CLOTTY 6 - one punch pony

            STAMINA
            PAC 10 - 12 rounds in the tank easy!
            CLOTTY 5 - fades after round 7

            DEFENSE
            PAC 7 - but becasue of foot work against clotts 9
            CLOTTY 9 - but he cannot blend offence in defense! it's an either or so agaist pac 6

            OFFENSE
            PAC - 10 = he's a ****ing tornado!
            CLOTTY - 6 = he'll be looking where pac went every time he covers up he'll be luck to get to double digets in any round not to mention he tires later on!

            PAC BY will run a train on CLOTTY. **** ego or hype just think about it. look at the styles clotty can't press what he can't find. he will follow pac around eating a jubilee/buffet of punches till he gasses out!

            ANYONE ANYONE knows pac will gang **** clotty!
            You make it sound as if Pac is Willie Pep or Whitaker. He isn't exactly hard to find and has taken a lot of shots in nearly all of his fights. Cotto found him easy, even Hatton was hitting him with body shots early, but he just sucks, and before that Marquez busted up his face both fights.

            You make out as though Pac will run rings around Clottey who you're making out to be slow and plodding. Have you seen him fight?

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            • rocky_balboa23
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              #116
              Originally posted by Eaner0919
              meh picking on a small outclassed guy did nothing for me

              what else you got?
              like the guy in ur avatar being outclassed by ur God, Floyd Jr? if Chico is small compared to Clottey, how do u see Pac against Clottey? then u will claim that Clottey-Pac fight is a mismatch. Shaddap u p*nk.

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                #117
                Originally posted by swizz
                when i do that your a tool he fought 9rds with one eye and clottey took rounds off noexcuses just facts
                i will not argue with u anymore. u have ur opinion I have mine. But i will say this again, if Clottey and Cotto fought in a rematch, Clottey will make him quit.

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                • The_Sneaky
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by El Castigador
                  Clottey lost every big fight hes had. This one will be no different. He is a loser. Nothing more.

                  Hes been boxing since 1995 and Baldimir has a better career then him.
                  Really? Where is Baldomir now? You call a former world champion a loser? You call the most avoided welterweight a loser. If he was don't you think a lot more top ranked welterweights will fancy a fight with him? At least to stay busy and get a good name on their resume. The only time he's being given a chance was when the champion had no other options. That includes Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and Pac. That is because he presents a serious threat in the ring. Even then he has had to do that against biased refereeing and judging. Don't tale my word for it, watch his fights with Baldomir, Margarito, Cotto yourself. Tell me your opinion of the refereeing and judging in those three fights.

                  Every elite boxer says of Clottey: high risk, low reward. They'll fight him if they have no other viable options, even then they aren't enthused about it. Did you hear Mosley say Clottey is no good? Or insist on fighting Clottey after the December 26 fight fell through? The only people you'll hear saying Clottey's no good are fans and commentators who haven't watched his fights and only repeat what the media says(or watch fight highlights) and Roach, Mayweather Sr who have a vested interest in saying so. All welterweights boxers themselves respect what Clottey brings into the ring.
                  Last edited by The_Sneaky; 02-17-2010, 05:26 AM.

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                  • The_Sneaky
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by South318
                    This is mainly an argument that Clottey would put up a better fight than previous opponents. He's only going to be in the fight the first 3-6 rounds, and I'm being nice. After that, Pac is going to blow his ass out. Clottey is a good fighter but not on Pac's level. This will not be a competitive fight.

                    How many fights have you seen Clottey be in for just '3-6 rounds'? His nickname is actually 'Heater' not 'Hitter'. Heater because as the rounds go he actually figures you out and turns up the heat and lays a beating on you.

                    Pac has been clearly beaten more than once and has been in close fights against other opponents. Not all his wins have been as dramatic as his last four. His record is 50-3-2(38KO) that means there are at least 5 times he wasn't dominant and 12 opponents who survived the whirlwind.

                    He is not on a level no one can get to. He struggled mightily against Marquez both times and against Morrales in the first fight and first half of the second fight.

                    Clottey is as good if not better than both Marquez and Morrales. He has all the tools they have and then more.

                    Cotto, Hatton, de la Hoya, Diaz are all similar in the aspect that they are left hand dominant, no-defense fighters who look to overwhelm with their offense.

                    Clottey is a right handed, aggressive, pressuring counterpuncher with a tight defense. Pac has his work cut out. He is in for a tough fight. He can win but it won't be easy. There's a high probability of him losing if he underestimates Clottey or doesn't stay disciplined or focused in this fight.

                    He won't win this fight with his offense or power, he won't break down Clottey because he can't get through that guard or go to the body without being broken down himself. Pac has to use his foot-speed and low power high volume of punches to look busier and win a decision. If he tries to go for the spectacular he'll get broken down. Clottey is hoping he can lure Pac into an inside fight, where his defense and counter punching will prevail. Other than that he'll use his tight guard and a stiff jab to fight from the outside. What will Pac do in response, side step to the left and jump in? He'll meet a straight right.

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                    • Talon
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                      #120
                      i think clottey can hold his own but think about what cotto did. yes the styles are different though

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