Pacquiao is Henry Armstrong in this era, who is PBF?

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  • rocky_balboa23
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    #201
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    Which one of those champions were undisputed? Did any of them unify the division championship? Was David Diaz the best in the Division? Are Guzman and Valero included in that? Or the best at 135? Does the win over Cotto include that it was a 145 pound welterweight championship? That's what I thought. This doesn't compare to what Armstrong did but I'm done arguing with fools that want to believe it because of what Merchant said(as if it's gospel). If Merchant had said something complimentary about Mayweather most of the same people that think his word is bond would call him an old fool. I know that's how the game is played. Especially when I see how Max Kellerman, who is every bit as good as Merchant, is hated on here because he respects Mayweather's skills. And that lineal crap is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in boxing today. There are too many variables surrounding it. Hell, Leon Spinks was a lineal heavyweight champion. In no way does it represent the best fighters in the division.
    Pac is the Henry Armstrong of this era because of his jumping from weight classes are remarkable. ALso, he beat three different fighters in three different weight divisions in the span of 1 year.

    Even much more remarkable is the fact that Pac not just beat his bigger opponents but KOed them.

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    • Calilloyd
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      #202
      Originally posted by rocky_balboa23
      Pac is the Henry Armstrong of this era because of his jumping from weight classes are remarkable. ALso, he beat three different fighters in three different weight divisions in the span of 1 year.

      Even much more remarkable is the fact that Pac not just beat his bigger opponents but KOed them.
      Pacquiao is Paquiao. He'll never be Henry Armstrong.

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      • rocky_balboa23
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        #203
        Originally posted by Calilloyd
        Pacquiao is Paquiao. He'll never be Henry Armstrong.
        Well, u have a point. But, if that's ur statement then Henry Armstrong will never be the Pacman as well. I bet, Henry Armstrong would love to become the Pacman.

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          #204
          Originally posted by rocky_balboa23
          Well, u have a point. But, if that's ur statement then Henry Armstrong will never be the Pacman as well. I bet, Henry Armstrong would love to become the Pacman.
          For money, yes. For accomlishments, I seriously doubt it.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Calilloyd
            For money, yes. For accomlishments, I seriously doubt it.
            Well, u never know. Pac's accomplishments are legendary as well, only fighter to win 4 lineal titles in 4 diff weight divisions. 7 division titlist. 3 time Ring Fighter of the year. "Greatest Asian Fighter ever and Greatest left handed fighter ever"- Bert Sugar. Faced adversity of becoming a star in the US because he is asian but now beloved by millions fans, Americans, FIlipinos, etc., around the world.
            Last edited by rocky_balboa23; 02-16-2010, 04:15 AM.

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            • illmatickid
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              #206
              in terms of "fighting style" i would say ali or leonard
              before you start gettin all worked up
              because of your hatred for floyd remember that leonard did alot of
              "running" in the ring too

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              • Rolling Stone
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                #207
                Originally posted by illmatickid
                in terms of "fighting style" i would say ali or leonard
                before you start gettin all worked up
                because of your hatred for floyd remember that leonard did alot of
                "running" in the ring too
                more like Willie Pep

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                • El Castigador
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Castor_Troy
                  Like i need to answer to you.

                  If you say pac is out side the TOP 10. Give me 10 names that accomplish more than Pacquiao and lets debate on it.


                  only 3 guys are clear cut above Pac and that is SRR, Armtrong and Ali.


                  so you only need 7 names. Name it.
                  Originally posted by El Castigador
                  So without naming Ali, Armstrong and SRR.

                  How about this list.

                  Pep, Louis, Greb, Benny Leonard, Charles, Duran, SRL, Dempsey, Johnson, and Langford thats 10 But I couldve kept going.
                  Originally posted by Castor_Troy
                  I say Pac's accomplishment is better than a few of those guys.

                  I'll start with the bolded one.

                  Pac > Charles. WTF??!!! Can you tel mel how did you get that name in there?
                  Originally posted by El Castigador
                  Ezzard ****ing Charles?

                  You talking about the Ring Nominated greatest Light Heavy weight ever? You talking about a guy who beat the avoided Charlie Burley TWICE. You talking about a guy who beat Moore, Bivens, Marshall and Maxim????

                  Are you ****ing serious right now? You talking about the guy who beat Joe Louis?

                  The guy who beat Jersey Joe Walcott.

                  Had 2 wars with Rocky Marciano? Are you SERIOUS.

                  Pac is greater then Charles. EXPLAIN IT.
                  This how the convo went.

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                  • El Castigador
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by El Castigador
                    No ****. Your response was that JMM, Barerra and Morales were better wins then what Charles had.
                    Originally posted by Castor_Troy
                    well

                    i assumed you're already aware of the supporting group of


                    DelaHoya
                    Hatton
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Oscar larios
                    Sasakul
                    Ledwabba
                    Jorge Julio
                    Originally posted by El Castigador
                    You have to be kidding me.



                    Are Pac fans serious??

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                    • Don Johnson
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by illmatickid
                      in terms of "fighting style" i would say ali or leonard
                      before you start gettin all worked up
                      because of your hatred for floyd remember that leonard did alot of
                      "running" in the ring too
                      against hagler maybe but, he still chose to trade with him to at least win the round. SRL was no runner...The *****s on this site are ridiculous.

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