Pacquiao is Henry Armstrong in this era, who is PBF?

[lefthook2daliva]

I don't give a **** what Merchant said. Henry Armstrong fought 180 times. Next to this, Paquiao (and all modern fighters) is a ***. Your premise is ****. Try again.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well he is right about one thing

Ezzard Charles isn't a top 10 ATG fighter.

But then again, neither is Pac.

[Castor_Troy]

This warrants no response at all.

as expected. Boxrec is down.

[El Castigador]

Well he is right about one thing

Ezzard Charles isn't a top 10 ATG fighter.

But then again, neither is Pac.

I didnt have him top 10. He said Name 10 fighters OUTSIDE Ali, SRR and Armstrong. He said those are the only 3 over Pac.

So I named ten more.

[Castor_Troy]

I didnt have him top 10. He said Name 10 fighters OUTSIDE Ali, SRR and Armstrong. He said those are the only 3 over Pac.

So I named ten more.

I said name 10 fighters inside the TOP 10. ReRead it you ****er.

and i said "Clear cut" above pac. Your comprehension skills needs attention.

[Jim Jeffries]

I didnt have him top 10. He said Name 10 fighters OUTSIDE Ali, SRR and Armstrong. He said those are the only 3 over Pac.

So I named ten more.

Gotcha, I have him on ignore so I can't see his posts.

Can't remember why, but now I think I know.

[El Castigador]

as expected. Boxrec is down.

Boxrec?

You just sat there and compared Morales, Barerra, Sasakul and Ledwabba to Charles wins:

Archie Moore 3 times, Maxim, Louis, Bivens, Walcott, Marshall, Burley TWICE.

I mean that is shocking to say the least.

[Rolling Stone]

Charles is not a TOP 10 Alltime fighter. He's between 20 to 30 IMO


Lets compare :


Joe Louis was 35 or 36 againts Charles and so is Wallcot

Got beaten by Marciano so are you getting credit for that?

Archie Moore was even older at 37

His biggest win was Joey Maxim.


Many fighters have dominated a division but in comparison Pac's run from 112 to 147 weighs more that charles' accomplishment IMO.


The Mexican trio of Barrera, Morales and Marquez were all in their 20's (29) when pac 1st fought them. Sasakul and ledwabba were solid champions of their division too.



PAC > Ezzard Charles

Now what you're doing is discrediting Charles wins...i can do the same to Pacquiao....Erik Morales was coming off brutal fights with Barrera and a loss to Zahir Raheem, the marquez fight was a controversial victory, David Diaz was nothing but a C grade fighter and Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton were coming off Knockout Losses.....

Ezzard Charles was voted Ring Magazine's Greatest Light Heavyweight in History and Bert Sugar's 7th Greatest Heavyweight of All Time,

Charles defeated 9 Hall of Famers

Jimmy Bivins, Charley Burley, Harold Johnson, Joe Louis, Lloyd Marshall, Joey Maxim, Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott and Teddy Yarosz. (9)

Possible future hall of famers that pacquiao has defeated barrera, morales, marquez, cotto (4)

[El Castigador]

Like i need to answer to you.

If you say pac is out side the TOP 10. Give me 10 names that accomplish more than Pacquiao and lets debate on it.


only 3 guys are clear cut above Pac and that is SRR, Armtrong and Ali.


so you only need 7 names. Name it.

So without naming Ali, Armstrong and SRR.

How about this list.

Pep, Louis, Greb, Benny Leonard, Charles, Duran, SRL, Dempsey, Johnson, and Langford thats 10 But I couldve kept going.

I say Pac's accomplishment is better than a few of those guys.

I'll start with the bolded one.

Pac > Charles. WTF??!!! Can you tel mel how did you get that name in there?

Ezzard ****ing Charles?

You talking about the Ring Nominated greatest Light Heavy weight ever? You talking about a guy who beat the avoided Charlie Burley TWICE. You talking about a guy who beat Moore, Bivens, Marshall and Maxim????

Are you ****ing serious right now? You talking about the guy who beat Joe Louis?

The guy who beat Jersey Joe Walcott.

Had 2 wars with Rocky Marciano? Are you SERIOUS.

Pac is greater then Charles. EXPLAIN IT.

This how the convo went.

[Castor_Troy]

David Diaz??

one out of the seven