Would Ike Ibeabuchi be undisputed champion right now?

[Left Banned Tua]

Um, no not really.

tua whooped his ass.



go collect your nuts.

[Left Banned Tua]

Ike was a good fighter for his size the way he smashed Byrd was good to watch I am sure he would have held a title at some point the only thing is he would be getting old by now and as he was never consistant in his training he could well have lost his title to maybe someone like Wlad if he came in fat. Anyway I am sure he would have held a title he would have beat guys like Rahman, Byrd (all ready did) Brewster, Ruiz, Briggs, Chageav etc, and in good shape he wouold have had a good shot at Wlad imo, I dont think he would have beat Lewis but that would have been a great fight to watch.

ike goes to sleep against prime , in shape lennox.

prime rahman probably would have beat ike.

[J Mac]

i don't think so, but unfortunately we will never know..

[JAB5239]

If Ike Ibeabuchi was never imprisoned, would be be the undisputed champ right now?

I highly doubt it. He obviously lacked the mental stability to stat on top if he ever got there in the first place. He never beat a tall, skilled fighter either. His two biggest wins were over somewhat small and limited fighters. I doubt he would have gotten past Lennox, Holyfield or Vitaly. I think he would have been somewhere along the lines of a Golota or Rahman. Jmo.

[Left Banned Tua]

I highly doubt it. He obviously lacked the mental stability to stat on top if he ever got there in the first place. He never beat a tall, skilled fighter either. His two biggest wins were over somewhat small and limited fighters. I doubt he would have gotten past Lennox, Holyfield or Vitaly. I think he would have been somewhere along the lines of a Golota or Rahman. Jmo.

i think he could have beat the older holyfield. maybe even the prime 208 lb. holyfield too. who knows?

he can't beat lennox and vitali. maybe wlad if he lands something big.

[JAB5239]

i think he could have beat the older holyfield. maybe even the prime 208 lb. holyfield too. who knows?

he can't beat lennox and vitali. maybe wlad if he lands something big.

With all due respect to your boy Tua, he wasn't nearly as crafty as Evander. I think Holy beats him by 4 or 5 rounds had they fought anytime between 97 and 2002. I think Holyfield would set traps that Ike would be to inexperienced or undisciplined to get out of. Who knows though, its just my opinion.

[jthoang]

With all due respect to your boy Tua, he wasn't nearly as crafty as Evander. I think Holy beats him by 4 or 5 rounds had they fought anytime between 97 and 2002. I think Holyfield would set traps that Ike would be to inexperienced or undisciplined to get out of. Who knows though, its just my opinion.

I agree, I think Holyfield, Lennox and Vitali would be too much for Ike.

[Left Banned Tua]

With all due respect to your boy Tua, he wasn't nearly as crafty as Evander. I think Holy beats him by 4 or 5 rounds had they fought anytime between 97 and 2002. I think Holyfield would set traps that Ike would be to inexperienced or undisciplined to get out of. Who knows though, its just my opinion.

well no one ever said tua was a tough fighter because of his skills. though his skills are not as bad as people think.

i just think ike had the workrate , size and strength advantages to beat evander.

yes holy fought big guys before and yes he has fought guys with big workrates but ike was the rare combination of both.

whereas guys like vitaly and lennox can use their longer reachs and greater size and height to offset ike's workrate (keep him at the end of their jab , clinch , push him off , etc.) , i think evander would have just went punch for punch with ike.

[JAB5239]

well no one ever said tua was a tough fighter because of his skills. though his skills are not as bad as people think.

i just think ike had the workrate , size and strength advantages to beat evander.

yes holy fought big guys before and yes he has fought guys with big workrates but ike was the rare combination of both.

whereas guys like vitaly and lennox can use their longer reachs and greater size and height to offset ike's workrate (keep him at the end of their jab , clinch , push him off , etc.) , i think evander would have just went punch for punch with ike.

I respect your opinion my man. But Im gonna hold on to my notion that experience would trump workrate. Im not saying Im right and you're wrong, its just my opinion.

[oaklandstephen]

ike is extremely overrated. tyson would have destroyed him aswell as lewis, vitali, and possibly holyfield.