Barrera vs Pacquiao..Rematch....Who Wins It?

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  • MikeHunt
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    #91
    Originally posted by Atwa_66
    If Barrera fights Pacquiao in a rematch who do you think will take the fight, and in how many rounds?

    Rumor has it that Barrera said No to Pacquiao, but I don't think anyone knows yet for sure.

    Barrera said 'NO' because he knows he can't win that fight, so why take the beating? These two should not fight again.......

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    • Pak men
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      #92
      Originally posted by MikeHunt
      Barrera said 'NO' because he knows he can't win that fight, so why take the beating? These two should not fight again.......
      If they should fight again, MAB better settle his hospital bills. Because that is where he is heading straight. lol!

      Last time around, PAC only had the left straight as his weapon. This time around he has this awkward uppercuts, sick right hook and sweet hidden shots at awkward angles.

      Last time they fought, MAB had cuts on both eyes, black eyes on both eye, a violet face from a severe beating, cuts on the lip.

      I really pity MAB if they face again. The last beating would look like a child's play compared to the second fight. lol!

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      • Bahamut Zero
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        #93
        Originally posted by Moon
        Manny_P .... you know I've read these posts. You use the term "lucky" incorrectly (or ignorantly?) when discussing Pac-Marquez. If we talk solely about the performances of these two men, and ignore the judges scoring, you have to attribute Marquez's apparent "luck" to his skills and ablity to adjust, coupled with Pac's complete dependency on throwing the same stuff.

        It's not "luck" that keeps you upright and competitive for 11 rounds, especially after receiving a 3KD pounding in the first round. It's not "luck" that allowed Marquez to get back into that fight. If anything, it was Pac's inability to take out a very hurt man.

        Morales used Marquez's approach to rounds 2 thru 12 as a model to beat Pac. So, was Morales then "lucky" against Pac too, since he executed a plan borrowed from Marquez? I don't think so.

        There is definitely luck involved in the boxing game. But, Marquez didn't need luck to survive rounds 2 thru 11 because he had the combination of chin, skill and heart required to stay in that fight. On that night, only Pac can be blamed for not finishing off a hurt man. Why could he not do it? Because Marquez wouldn't let him, end of story.

        Now lets look at the judges. First, Pac should not even have had this fight going to the cards. But, for Pac fans it a great thing that one judge didn't give a 10-7 round, because it allows a controversy to distract from the fact that Pac couldn't beat a guy who was in BIG trouble. But, if we must look at the cards, then consider this ..... Pac didn't clearly beat Marquez in the eyes of a majority of the judges, end of story. Marquez was very competitive in rounds 2 to 12, so Pac again allowed the judges to see some rounds much closer than they should have been. So, despite the 3KD first round, Pac again couldn't clearly dominate Marquez, according to the judges.

        Let's give Pac the Majority Decision he would have won, if the judge had scored correctly. So Pac would have have a MD, after a 3 KD first round, right? That doesn't say to much about Pac's "dominance" of Marquez after that first round.

        When discussing Pac-Marquez, look at what happened in the ring and ignore the judegs though. The judges cannot be trusted, so every fighter has to give it all in the ring. I think Manny is very aware of this and gave Marquez everything he's got, but couldn't beat him, simple.
        SSSSSSSSSHHHHHH...

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        • Agave
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          #94
          Originally posted by Moon
          Manny_P .... you know I've read these posts. You use the term "lucky" incorrectly (or ignorantly?) when discussing Pac-Marquez. If we talk solely about the performances of these two men, and ignore the judges scoring, you have to attribute Marquez's apparent "luck" to his skills and ablity to adjust, coupled with Pac's complete dependency on throwing the same stuff.

          It's not "luck" that keeps you upright and competitive for 11 rounds, especially after receiving a 3KD pounding in the first round. It's not "luck" that allowed Marquez to get back into that fight. If anything, it was Pac's inability to take out a very hurt man.

          Morales used Marquez's approach to rounds 2 thru 12 as a model to beat Pac. So, was Morales then "lucky" against Pac too, since he executed a plan borrowed from Marquez? I don't think so.

          There is definitely luck involved in the boxing game. But, Marquez didn't need luck to survive rounds 2 thru 11 because he had the combination of chin, skill and heart required to stay in that fight. On that night, only Pac can be blamed for not finishing off a hurt man. Why could he not do it? Because Marquez wouldn't let him, end of story.

          Now lets look at the judges. First, Pac should not even have had this fight going to the cards. But, for Pac fans it a great thing that one judge didn't give a 10-7 round, because it allows a controversy to distract from the fact that Pac couldn't beat a guy who was in BIG trouble. But, if we must look at the cards, then consider this ..... Pac didn't clearly beat Marquez in the eyes of a majority of the judges, end of story. Marquez was very competitive in rounds 2 to 12, so Pac again allowed the judges to see some rounds much closer than they should have been. So, despite the 3KD first round, Pac again couldn't clearly dominate Marquez, according to the judges.

          Let's give Pac the Majority Decision he would have won, if the judge had scored correctly. So Pac would have have a MD, after a 3 KD first round, right? That doesn't say to much about Pac's "dominance" of Marquez after that first round.

          When discussing Pac-Marquez, look at what happened in the ring and ignore the judegs though. The judges cannot be trusted, so every fighter has to give it all in the ring. I think Manny is very aware of this and gave Marquez everything he's got, but couldn't beat him, simple.
          Totally agree!

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          • grayfist
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            #95
            This is total speculation, and if this is ignored, it may very well deserve that fate:



            What if Pacquiao wins against Morales at 130 in defense of his recently acquired 130-lbs. WBC International belt, and is made Barrera's mandatory? ("Fat chance of that happening," say Erik's fans! )

            Barrera has been quoted as having said he does not want to take on Morales' "left-overs".

            Will MAB move up to 135 and face Jesus?

            Will he face Pacquiao?

            Will he retire?

            Will he throw away the belt and face Morales, again?

            Your guess is-- I suppose-- going to be as good as any, but, let's hear it!

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            • donpascua
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              #96
              Manny is too strong for barrera

              It will be manny's game everytime he and barrera square of. Manny is too strong and fast compared to barrera. Barrera's style is tailored to manny's devastating power

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              • RastaSmoker
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                #97
                Originally posted by donpascua
                It will be manny's game everytime he and barrera square of. Manny is too strong and fast compared to barrera. Barrera's style is tailored to manny's devastating power

                hey no guy welcome to the forum You are now in the red in karma. you should thank me

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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by RastaSmoker
                  hey no guy welcome to the forum You are now in the red in karma. you should thank me
                  I gave him a little red karma as well, it is good for him

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                  • nadz
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ThaGreatestJr.
                    I gave him a little red karma as well, it is good for him
                    i give him blue LOL

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                    • czars_salad
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                      #100
                      barrera would look like an old dog against pac

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